Poul Thorsen is set to plead guilty to stealing CDC funds, but Louis Conte argues his real crime is the fraudulent research used to deny a vaccine autism link.
Yes every one think Denmark is such a nice little cozy place where no one ever is corrupt. There is just so man things that goes unpunished when you have the right position here - it becomes more and more clear -
I could name many -- funny about the university distancing them self -- but DTU Danish technological University - fired Henrik Svensmark because his research disprove the co2 climate doom the politicians use to milk us all -- as in stealing our money and giving them to corrupt **** -- and it goes on and on.
These people have blood on their hands but the cops go hard after the little guy but the politicians bomb, kill and maim.
DOGE didn't really uncover much fraud at all. And most of their 'finds' that weren't misinterpretations or complete falsehoods, were already under investigation and/or audit - by the IG's that Trump fired on his first day.
Other DOGE "discoveries" were just small "woke" sounding grants and expenses that were always public knowledge, available for all to see at usaspending.gov -
Meanwhile, someone's been pardoning healthcare frawdsters left and right.
You might be able to deceive this group into buying "books," but no amount of repeating this stuff makes it true. Shame and morality are overrated.
"In the early 2000’s, Thorsen scammed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) by manipulating Danish health data in a broad scheme to conceal the link between autism and vaccines."
Impressively mendacious retelling here. Weird that Thorsen was arrested May 2025, and his extradition in the works for over a year, but HHS criminal investigators and DOJ still couldn't charge him with anything like what you've written. They actually dropped all but one of the wire fraud charges. He's charged with money laundering under a million dollars.
I suspect the underlying charging issue is the US Attorney General must have to make any case against Thorsen to stick, to avoid appeals in courts of law and public opinion, by presenting a clean, kindergartener-mind level case with zero wiggle room in front of any judge and jury. (Also, to win a signed plea deal to be a witness against higher ups.) At heart, this plea deal is just like putting Al Capone in prison at Alcatraz not for being a mob boss guilty of the St Valentine’s Day massacre, extortion rackets, other murders, etc but instead for a simple case of tax fraud with one witness: Capone’s accountant. That accountant handled Capone’s double ledger books and he lived long enough to testify in a Chicago court where the judge in 1931 to avoid a bribed jury at the last second ordered “his” jury replaced with one from a nearby courtroom. That brave witness, knowing that to testify meant his death, was the father of a boy who became a WW2 Naval aviation hero in 1943 whose name, Edward Henry “Butch” O’Hare, was given to O’Hare International Airport long after his accountant father, Edward Joseph O’Hare, was murdered by the mob in November 1939 the same month Capone was released from jail due to his mind rotting away with terminal untreated syphilis he refused to admit he had. Most people are never brave enough to be whistleblowers against thugs like Capone and Big Harma.
"I suspect the underlying charging issue is the US Attorney General must have to make any case against Thorsen to stick, to avoid appeals in courts of law and public opinion ..."
Get real. This DOJ cares not a bit about cases sticking on appeal. They keep failing to get grand jury indictments - Once in a (federal prosecutor) career failures to secure indictment are now routine. Reflecting Pool "vandals" and "terrorists," sandwich "assaults" against ICE - The great sea shell assassination threat.
They only care about Believer "opinion." Frankly, I'm a little surprised they haven't concocted something on Thorsen.
Seems from the news there was credible legal evidence the Reflecting Pool contractor’s rush job demanded by the administration/White House led to not enough “curing” time which was a causal factor in the new sealant coming loose which aided vandals and lookie-loos tearing off patches of it. Thus, that evidence muddied the waters for any judge or jury deciding on a vandalism charge.
There are not. It's been 15 years (20 since a publication with his name on it). The couple of relevant papers and datasets have been available for the world to scrutinize. Nada.
But perhaps I've missed something recent. What have you seen?
The federal indictment and prosecution deal exclusively with financial fraud, not scientific misconduct. Unfortunately, I'm not sure this will be enough to discredit the research. The wagons appear to be circling.
I believe it would be more important and pertinent if he pleads guilty to manipulating the studies. I hope the legal agenda will address this more crucial fact- otherwise it will just be one more crook in prison.
No one has ever made those allegations. No scientists, or journal referees it auditors. No health agency. No one at HHS, ever. And certainly no law enforcement agency.
Yes, that is indeed what SHOULD happen. Unfortunately, at least in the US, even though the laws against research fraud exist, they are rarely enforced (or are at most settled out of court, and therefore out of the public eye), mainly due to conflicts of interests and widespread corruption. When I learned this (that science isn't the "gold standard" we've been led to believe it is) over a decade ago, my world was turned upside down, and has been a factor in my growing cynicism of government and industry ever since.
My take on the whole rotten vaccine industry. It's amazing how many reject simple truth, if it will not put big bucks in their pocket. They like the Lie... that Injecting lab-created substances into the bloodstream will increase immunity This has made trillions for Big Pharma... and lowered the mental and physical health of every recipient. .
Thank the heavens that the 1984 US Supreme Court’s Chevron case decision was overturned in June 2024 by its Loper Bright decision ending the 40 year old Chevron rule that all law judges must - thanks to deeming themselves in Chevron forever too stupid and ignorant to deal with any science and engineering knowledge - thus, til 2024 USA courts had to give 100% deference to any self-declared “expert” government employees or their paid consultants and ignore all expert opinions disputing those government experts. A multi-generational psychopathic era when an Orwellian “2+2 = 5” was A-OK for our courts of law and all those government “experts” with their ever higher stacks of cut n’ paste garbage studies and hired-gun reports by filth like Thorsen fueling a time of governmental greenwashing and whitewashing to benefit not the public but profiteers, especially for pharma and big food beneficiaries with their cozy revolving door government employee identical twins.
Chevron and Loper Bright explain how the USA’s government “experts” and their paid hired-gun consultants like Thorsen were enabled for 40 years to run amok and the Capone/O’Hare history shows how very, very hard it is to take down deeply entrenched and murderous racketeers.
Three things I find hard to believe in this article: One, that the CDC needed Thorsen to get access to Danish data. Why on earth would such data be guarded? I would expect total friendliness between the CDC and its Danish counterparts. This is before Trump's military threats against Denmark after all. Two, that the CDC needed the Danish data. Said data still needed massaging. So what was so important about it? Why not just cook the books with different data? Three, is Thorsen's work really the entirety of all the 'research' exonerating vaccines? Pro-vaxxers always claim there are mountains of such studies. The article suggests that if Thorsen's work is revealed as fraudulent, there will be nothing left demonstrating lack of a link between vaccines and autism. Isn't there plenty of junk science to point to?
Fourth bonus thing, easier to believe, but very eyebrow raising to me nonetheless: People act as though that 1986 law shielded vaccine manufacturers from liability, that the government was making good on claims instead. But that turns out to be limited. There's a fund for such, and if it runs out, manufacturers ARE on the hook!!??
Yes every one think Denmark is such a nice little cozy place where no one ever is corrupt. There is just so man things that goes unpunished when you have the right position here - it becomes more and more clear -
I could name many -- funny about the university distancing them self -- but DTU Danish technological University - fired Henrik Svensmark because his research disprove the co2 climate doom the politicians use to milk us all -- as in stealing our money and giving them to corrupt **** -- and it goes on and on.
These people have blood on their hands but the cops go hard after the little guy but the politicians bomb, kill and maim.
DOGE didn't really uncover much fraud at all. And most of their 'finds' that weren't misinterpretations or complete falsehoods, were already under investigation and/or audit - by the IG's that Trump fired on his first day.
Other DOGE "discoveries" were just small "woke" sounding grants and expenses that were always public knowledge, available for all to see at usaspending.gov -
Meanwhile, someone's been pardoning healthcare frawdsters left and right.
Many of those job cuts were also reinstated with the new budget bill.
You might be able to deceive this group into buying "books," but no amount of repeating this stuff makes it true. Shame and morality are overrated.
"In the early 2000’s, Thorsen scammed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) by manipulating Danish health data in a broad scheme to conceal the link between autism and vaccines."
Impressively mendacious retelling here. Weird that Thorsen was arrested May 2025, and his extradition in the works for over a year, but HHS criminal investigators and DOJ still couldn't charge him with anything like what you've written. They actually dropped all but one of the wire fraud charges. He's charged with money laundering under a million dollars.
I suspect the underlying charging issue is the US Attorney General must have to make any case against Thorsen to stick, to avoid appeals in courts of law and public opinion, by presenting a clean, kindergartener-mind level case with zero wiggle room in front of any judge and jury. (Also, to win a signed plea deal to be a witness against higher ups.) At heart, this plea deal is just like putting Al Capone in prison at Alcatraz not for being a mob boss guilty of the St Valentine’s Day massacre, extortion rackets, other murders, etc but instead for a simple case of tax fraud with one witness: Capone’s accountant. That accountant handled Capone’s double ledger books and he lived long enough to testify in a Chicago court where the judge in 1931 to avoid a bribed jury at the last second ordered “his” jury replaced with one from a nearby courtroom. That brave witness, knowing that to testify meant his death, was the father of a boy who became a WW2 Naval aviation hero in 1943 whose name, Edward Henry “Butch” O’Hare, was given to O’Hare International Airport long after his accountant father, Edward Joseph O’Hare, was murdered by the mob in November 1939 the same month Capone was released from jail due to his mind rotting away with terminal untreated syphilis he refused to admit he had. Most people are never brave enough to be whistleblowers against thugs like Capone and Big Harma.
"I suspect the underlying charging issue is the US Attorney General must have to make any case against Thorsen to stick, to avoid appeals in courts of law and public opinion ..."
Get real. This DOJ cares not a bit about cases sticking on appeal. They keep failing to get grand jury indictments - Once in a (federal prosecutor) career failures to secure indictment are now routine. Reflecting Pool "vandals" and "terrorists," sandwich "assaults" against ICE - The great sea shell assassination threat.
They only care about Believer "opinion." Frankly, I'm a little surprised they haven't concocted something on Thorsen.
Seems from the news there was credible legal evidence the Reflecting Pool contractor’s rush job demanded by the administration/White House led to not enough “curing” time which was a causal factor in the new sealant coming loose which aided vandals and lookie-loos tearing off patches of it. Thus, that evidence muddied the waters for any judge or jury deciding on a vandalism charge.
The April 13, 2011 indictment on 13 wire fraud and 9 money laundering counts; https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/37679988/indictment
There hasn't been a new superseding indictment. He was extradited and arraigned on 2 wire fraud counts and 9 money laundering accounts ~May 8, 2026;
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndga/pr/autism-researcher-extradited-germany-face-federal-charges-stealing-cdc-grant-money
880K dollars is small-ball in trumpworld.
“Poul Thorsen, the researcher in US custody, is expected to plead guilty of 22 counts of fraud, including falsifying reports on vaccines and autism.”
You write that a few days ago. It's untrue. There were never any such allegations.
I think there are plenty odd allegations, but perhaps not in the indictments
There are not. It's been 15 years (20 since a publication with his name on it). The couple of relevant papers and datasets have been available for the world to scrutinize. Nada.
But perhaps I've missed something recent. What have you seen?
Lyed about him in your last piece - About fraudulent data and studies. Craven.
The federal indictment and prosecution deal exclusively with financial fraud, not scientific misconduct. Unfortunately, I'm not sure this will be enough to discredit the research. The wagons appear to be circling.
Thorsen matters for moving product and for phundraising. Mom would be proud of her conscienceless schlockhocker.
I believe it would be more important and pertinent if he pleads guilty to manipulating the studies. I hope the legal agenda will address this more crucial fact- otherwise it will just be one more crook in prison.
No one has ever made those allegations. No scientists, or journal referees it auditors. No health agency. No one at HHS, ever. And certainly no law enforcement agency.
Yes, that is indeed what SHOULD happen. Unfortunately, at least in the US, even though the laws against research fraud exist, they are rarely enforced (or are at most settled out of court, and therefore out of the public eye), mainly due to conflicts of interests and widespread corruption. When I learned this (that science isn't the "gold standard" we've been led to believe it is) over a decade ago, my world was turned upside down, and has been a factor in my growing cynicism of government and industry ever since.
Everyone knows vexxxines cause autism
You know Josef Mengele must be looking from hell and thinking "wow! Those demons went much farther than I ever imagined."
My take on the whole rotten vaccine industry. It's amazing how many reject simple truth, if it will not put big bucks in their pocket. They like the Lie... that Injecting lab-created substances into the bloodstream will increase immunity This has made trillions for Big Pharma... and lowered the mental and physical health of every recipient. .
Thank the heavens that the 1984 US Supreme Court’s Chevron case decision was overturned in June 2024 by its Loper Bright decision ending the 40 year old Chevron rule that all law judges must - thanks to deeming themselves in Chevron forever too stupid and ignorant to deal with any science and engineering knowledge - thus, til 2024 USA courts had to give 100% deference to any self-declared “expert” government employees or their paid consultants and ignore all expert opinions disputing those government experts. A multi-generational psychopathic era when an Orwellian “2+2 = 5” was A-OK for our courts of law and all those government “experts” with their ever higher stacks of cut n’ paste garbage studies and hired-gun reports by filth like Thorsen fueling a time of governmental greenwashing and whitewashing to benefit not the public but profiteers, especially for pharma and big food beneficiaries with their cozy revolving door government employee identical twins.
How is that relevant here?
Chevron and Loper Bright explain how the USA’s government “experts” and their paid hired-gun consultants like Thorsen were enabled for 40 years to run amok and the Capone/O’Hare history shows how very, very hard it is to take down deeply entrenched and murderous racketeers.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK & RESEARCH YOU DO!
Three things I find hard to believe in this article: One, that the CDC needed Thorsen to get access to Danish data. Why on earth would such data be guarded? I would expect total friendliness between the CDC and its Danish counterparts. This is before Trump's military threats against Denmark after all. Two, that the CDC needed the Danish data. Said data still needed massaging. So what was so important about it? Why not just cook the books with different data? Three, is Thorsen's work really the entirety of all the 'research' exonerating vaccines? Pro-vaxxers always claim there are mountains of such studies. The article suggests that if Thorsen's work is revealed as fraudulent, there will be nothing left demonstrating lack of a link between vaccines and autism. Isn't there plenty of junk science to point to?
Fourth bonus thing, easier to believe, but very eyebrow raising to me nonetheless: People act as though that 1986 law shielded vaccine manufacturers from liability, that the government was making good on claims instead. But that turns out to be limited. There's a fund for such, and if it runs out, manufacturers ARE on the hook!!??