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Linda Curatolo's avatar

So they extorted the American public. Good to know. I for one will do everything in my power to continue eating organic, supporting regenerative farms and never, ever buying another Bayer product, or whatever new iteration they hide behind, for as long as I live. B@stards.

Douglas's avatar

Maybe you should have a chat with Stephanie Seneff, Phd, Senior Research Scientist at MIT, who has been researching glyphosate for over 20 years. Also I would suggest reading her book Toxic Legacy https://stephanieseneff.net/ "How the Weedkiller Glyphosate Is Destroying Our Health and the Environment - The Silent Spring of our time - From an MIT scientist, mounting evidence that the active ingredient in the world’s most commonly used weedkiller is responsible for debilitating chronic diseases, including autism, liver disease, and more."

Sonia Nordenson's avatar

Think you're telling Farmer Klar something he doesn't know?

Lori's avatar

They know all this already and just explained the issue. Can you come up with a better plan of action?

C. Tarquinn's avatar

"MIT remains a puzzle for allowing Seneff to claim she is an “MIT Senior Research Scientist” bleating corporate conspiracy fables about agriculture and vaccines when she is only a programmer who works on ‘communication’ between humans and computers."

Ginger 's avatar

This was a great article outlining the difficult task we are faced with in changing our food system. I truly believe one of the best ways to change a lot of our problems is for everyone to understand that every dollar we spend is a vote for or against a more sustainable way of life. Unfortunately our current economy makes it difficult to make those choices. Upfront, they can cost more. I like the phrase we used in the early days of the environmental movement and still applies today: there's no such thing as a free lunch. Ultimately the choices we make today lead into a very expensive health care system and so much more.

llaw555's avatar

I’ve been buying organic for over 40 years just for that reason. Every dollar I spend supports something!

PamelaDrew's avatar

Old enough to remember when the exact same arguments were made about economic disaster if Monsanto PCBs were eliminated. We could grow more than enough to feed ourselves if the bulk of USDA subsidy dollars were used to grow crops that feed Americans instead of vast agribusiness GMO corn, soy, canola, sugar beet & cotton that are primarily exported for animal feed, when not put into toxic processed products that make Americans the fattest, sickest population in human history. Sure it's deadly but Bayer sells cancer drugs too so let's think about the economy the DOW is over 50,000. Beyond shameful it's criminal!!

Harold Gielow's avatar

You can trust Secretary Kennedy to do the right thing for the right reasons. I don’t encourage blind trust. Questioning is alright. It is both our right and our responsibility. We must also listen and be open to learn. Watch Secretary Kennedy’s actions. For Pete’s sake, he won a major case against Monsanto due to glyphosate causing non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. He knows the danger of this chemical and many others which create this toxic soup our children are swimming in. I know his recent support of securing our nation’s glyphosate production was a tactical move in a strategic plan to secure our nations food supply and make it truly healthy. We cannot achieve that strategic aim if we take a precipitous move which would bankrupt our farmers.

You can trust Secretary Kennedy. I guarantee you this tactical move was gut wrenching for him, but taken as a necessary step in a larger plan.

There is a song, “When you can’t See His Hand, Trust His Heart.” Well, many certainly can’t see the moves Secretary Kennedy is making behind the scenes, but I trust his heart.

Marc's avatar

I trust his heart too.

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

This was beautifully spoken. Thank you for writing it. I do trust his heart. I met him , hugged him and spoke with him. He told me he knew all the players and he knew how to deal with them to gain our health back. I agree- it must have been painstaking tp make thos decision. When we stop making decisions based on Financial means and start makimg decisions as a heart based society is when we will start to see the BIG changes start to ripple. Thos has already started and it’s unfortunate we had to get to such a dire point in our existence as a society. I still think we need to think outside the box on this problem with the farmers and not coddle them bc they may lose their $$. They CHOSE to not be organic farmers. They could have come together ( power in #’s) and fought poisoning Americans they feed.

Deborah Kishbaugh's avatar

Why not spend $$$ on research for a non-toxic weed killer? How do other countries do it that have banned glyphosate? This is political, not about health. These companies SHOULD NOT be given liability protection. There’s a reason that they have lost so many court battles and billions of dollars. It’s called depopulation. Let’s REALLY do the right thing and make America healthy again!

Wendy Sproule's avatar

They DON'T get blanket liability protection against lawsuits by you and me. Read more carefully. Do your research. Peace.

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

I Like how you are thinking outside the box. This is what we need. More IDEAS —not succumbing to the greed culture and money matrix that has so obv harmed all life on Earth.

Jennifer Jones's avatar

Deborah - good.

SINCERE QUESTION:

HOW DO other COUNTRIES who BANNED GLYPHOSATE handle this??

Is there ANYONE here, or otherwise, who can shed some light on how these countries do it?

I'm going to check with GROK.com

Beth C Coddiwompler's avatar

I appreciate the nuanced discussion by Kennedy and here, and the reminder to foster unity and resist splintering.

At the same time, we NEED TO MAKE SOME NOISE to our members in Congress (more on that below) so that they hear loud and clear that we want them to support the goals of making America healthy.

While not explicitly providing indemnity, the EO does have a provision that could make this possible. This, combined with a horrible provision in the proposed Farm Bill that would give indemnity for harm, makes this issue urgent.

The Farm Bill, as proposed, would preempt state pesticide laws, expand immunity for manufacturers, and allow more GMO pesticides onto the market with little to no scrutiny.

URGENT: tell your Congress members to oppose pesticide immunity provisions in the Farm Bill, AND to support Thomas Massie’s bill before Congress, H.R. 7601, to ensure protections from pesticides.

Also tell them to support the transition to organic and regenerative agriculture, to support farms both large and small, and to support victims injured by weedkillers and herbicides.

Read more here: https://nationalhealthfreedomaction.org/executive-order-on-glyphosate-safeguard-or-setback/

Take action here: https://anh-usa.org/maha-betrayal-in-plain-sight-pesticide-de-regulation-and-vax-style-immunity/

Shez's avatar

This so-called deal with Bayer is astonishingly similar to what went down in 1980s. Big Pharma put the screws to President Raegan saying they would withdraw vaccines if they did not get full Protection from lawsuits because they were drowning in them. Not sure why no one asked “Hey maybe you should check your product? Why is it killing people and little children?” No no, they gave full immunity because of threats similar to Bayer now. And what a bunch of bunk! Like they would ever give up on $1 trillion flagship, even though they know it kills and destroys lives of millions of people and children.

At the very least, they need to put the screws to Bayer. The timing of this is not lost on anyone. It’s just before the midterms. So maybe Trump can say “well you’ve got a year to come up with something safer/better.” Give them a deadline. Give Maha something to restore hope after this devastating announcement.

llaw555's avatar

Reagan backed the Baye/ Dole act, in 1980, so it’s clear what his interests were.

Frank Stoppenbach's avatar

Glyphosate, originally from Monsanto, was a key part of the chemical industry's effort to get a major share of food revenue. Plants would be genetically modified to tolerate the Roundup weed (plant) killer, farmers would buy patented seed to cut weed management costs.

The comments that we now have no choice because of GMOs and glyphosates dominance shows the success of the strategy, making it more difficult for organic / traditional farmers to compete.

The GMO project, of course, spread into virus weaponization.

Both projects were a mistake, and the faster we end them, the better.

Thankfully, organic farmers are still farming.

Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

This recent Texas rally gives added insight into the challenges being faced & the plans to move forward in a realistic yet aggressive way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC75o_59F1E

Helen's avatar

Wonderfully enlightening. Thank you for writing this.

John Prinz's avatar

As a intractable disabled pain patient in CA I would never use Roundup on my plants.. Clean plants make great medicine. I replaced Rx Oxycontin with strong cannabis medicine, clean medicine.

Lori's avatar

clean medicine sounds like an oxymoron!

John Prinz's avatar

Not all cannabis grown is Clean, poison strayed to kill bugs. But when it's grown for your medicine... As a individual patient you never use poison... because it's medicine.

Rudy Anderson's avatar

Very good article. When I saw that Kennedy endorsed this continuation of glyphosate, I was surprised, but I have such faith that he knows what he's doing, that I gave him wide berth. Europe has had a ban on glyphosate for a very long time, so it would be good to know what their farmers are using instead. The transition away from this poison should happen as quickly as possible, hopefully with a healthy-soils approach, not "safer" herbicides.

Jennifer Jones's avatar

Yes, what are EUROPEAN farmers doing??

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

He knows what he’s doing but what it really tells me is he’s still having to play the ‘matrix game’ and that the the players in charge are still in charge and that’s not good. SO there’s less of them right? Like one percent elite pulling the puppet strings on humanity -so WE the PEOPLE need to step it up and start making some fing BIG noise!

Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

This recent Texas rally gives added insight into the challenges being faced & the plans to move forward in a realistic yet aggressive way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC75o_59F1E

Rudy Anderson's avatar

I actually did check out this link and it's fabulous! It's fairly short, but I loved Calley Means and RFK, Jr. talks. Both were very heartening for what is happening.

Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

Glad you appreciated. If you haven’t seen the new MAHA movie, you might like it as well. They release 2 Chapters (1 Episode) every 24 hours (only) . . . that is the free version, but you can also purchase the entire movie - https://signup.mahamovie.com/.

It started Tuesday so last night was Episode 5 out of 9, I believe. Not only have I learned a lot, but I love that so many people are involved.

John Wright's avatar

As much as we would like massive rapid change (improvements). Reality is that "disruption" can be harmful too!

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

Change is never comfortable. What’s on the other side of change is what matters. As a society we have been coddled to not want to FEEL pain. Take drugs- don’t feel pain as a main example. Shove feelings down, don’t FEEL the pain- look where that has got us. Time to put our big girl or boy pants on or we won’t have a future on Earth to feel anything.

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

Thank you for explaining the dilemma. I wish food labels could indicate if pesticides or herbicides were used. That way consumers could avoid them. I know poultry and eggs indicate if there were no antibiotics or hormones used.

llaw555's avatar

Shop farms not supermarkets

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

I agree, but most farms probably are still using glyphosate, as the article said. It’s a rocky road for consumers.

llaw555's avatar

Well… it’s “not convenient.” When I first started eating organically, I literally had to spend an entire day of my time , food shopping because no one carried what I needed in the same location and none of the locations were local. I felt adamant about not supporting corruption and so I accepted that I would be inconvenienced. When “Bread and Circus” in MA became WHOLE FOODS MARKET, I thought I died and went to heaven. One stop shopping for everything!! Well, over the last 20 years they downgraded in every possible way and now between work,I’m seeking another way to sustain earth and its life force here. Any fool should know by now that our bodies are made of the same elements as earth only in different proportions and a healthy earth supplies us with everything we need. We’ve been deceived out of greed. Take your life back into your own hands.

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

Thank you. You woulf love thr book I just published with my children called The Queen Bee Prophecy

to Save the Bees and US and talks about the Great Web of Life and how we are connected and made of the same elements as Earth.

https://linktr.ee/BeeLOVEia

llaw555's avatar

The public MUST get off their asses and find and support small regenerative, organic , transparent farms! THAT is the only way other than growing your own food. You will have to learn to eat seasonally or eat poison. Pasture Farm Food, Aaron Millers Bio Farm and lots of farms out west!! DO IT!

RoseGraalBeeLOVEQueen🌹⚜️ 🏆💖👸🏻🐝's avatar

💯 Agree. It’s up to US now to make lots of NOISE ‘off our asses.’ Kennedy’s agreement to continue using glyphosate tells me one thing- he needs us in numbers bc hands are still being tied.

Jean's avatar

Thank you for the big picture! This is very helpful informing us about truths of the matters asserted and the ways we can support the needed transition to a healthy food system!