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James Lyons-Weiler, PhD's avatar

YES. Dissent and disagreement are essential to a thriving society. After all, it's what we fought for, right?

Illness's avatar

To enable charlatans? No.

Drynn's avatar

How can you say that RFK jr is a charlatan? When has more of the country been aware of the mainstream health lies circulating? Nothing in politics is a straight line and RFK jr has been making change where he can without causing disaster. An outright ban of glyphosate with no suitable alternative would lead to more harmful pesticides being used; we need to invest in alternative solutions and work with farmers to adopt them.

Similarly, we have seen what happens when we try to change the vaccine schedule. We are up against powerful forces and even with the legal right we need tremendous public pressure to keep the law from being twisted back around on us.

Finally, banning mRNA is again a maneuver that requires evidence that we do not have. We have contested evidence of harms caused by the COVID vaccine - that is an indictment of one instance of the platform, not evidence that the platform itself is dangerous under all conditions. This is the way that science works. I agree that policy for medication should be guilty until proven innocent, but right now that is not what we have. Again, changing this takes time - it took a long time for us to get here.

YvonneM's avatar

Thank you for this article. I have no patience for previous RFK supporters who complain and see the glass half empty. Have they never experienced real challenge in their lives? I’m extremely grateful for the changes made so far and for RFK Jr and all of MAHA.

Praise Dear Leader's avatar

MAHA is the toeknee money machine.

Illness's avatar

The “movement” that's a third-hand acronym. What leaders? Just a figurehead and his enablers and hangers-on. Participate all you want - buy lots of woo-books. Donate, donate. Rage, misdirectedly.

Tim Cayzer's avatar

Thank you "Illness". Leaders are in every corner of the world. Speaking up calmly to return us to the paths of wisdom. Yes! Participate! Read, learn, and communicate to others. Change takes persistence.

Drynn's avatar

What is your solution? Your name is apt - you are as a virus, seeking to destroy. You have appeared in these comments multiple times sowing dissent, but you offer no other path. Your message is one of hopelessness and will cause only despair. Let’s take our best chance and go as far as we can with it; then we can iterate and improve in the next cycle. Growing the movement is the goal right now.

Lysenko's avatar

The movement of bowels

Andy Schmitt's avatar

I wrote this response to Bell’s initial AI article. I’ll post it here:

https://www.theparadoxpress.com/the-accusation-reveals-the-confession/

Kelly Reardon's avatar

"In his article, Bell says that the co-opted letter-writing cohort within MAHA uses the dogmatic tactic of creating a hierarchy of issues to focus on solving and aiming at eliminating the biggest problems as quickly as possible. In this case the mRNA platform remains at the top of its hierarchy of issues because it’s the one that has brought this movement together and the one that has caused the most damage in the past six years."

"The whole point of the letter to Kennedy is simple: pull the mRNA platform from the market. It’s been proven on countless occasions that the vaccines are dangerous and that they have been associated with the deaths of millions of people worldwide.

If asking our government to do something they promised us would be done is somehow a psyop or a secret conspiracy, so be it. If that’s the justification the MAHA coalition needs to tell itself to feel vindicated in their continual abdication of responsibility, they’re entitled to that position. But the blowback will be fierce and clear come election time in a month.

And for what it’s worth, the people who worked on writing this letter and who signed this letter all do have one thing in common: integrity and conviction."

YES!! Thank you, Andy, for your great response/article!

Drynn's avatar

This is the kind of infighting that we’re trying to avoid here. I understand your complaints, and they are valid, but they have to live within the reality we inhabit. What is the alternative? Are you suggesting that nothing has improved with RFK Jr in office?

How about the changes to the food pyramid that brought the message of questioning the public health narrative to a much broader audience? I get that the pyramid looks small, but it has gotten many to question medical advice. Focusing on issues for which there is clear evidence is helping to grow the movement and make it more inviting to newcomers.

There are two different fights here. You are arguing about policy changes - the results you want. The problem is that these can be easily undone by the next administration. We can burn any clout we have amassed by moving without clear evidence - and you will see the same outcome as what happened with changing the vaccine schedule. The other fight is that of public knowledge and opinion. Swaying this takes time and careful messaging. When your interest is the truth, swaying the public is incredibly difficult and takes time. You can’t fabricate convenient stories to capture the narrative. We don’t have the media on our side, which further impedes this objective.

Yet this is the most important goal. MAHA gets to live in office for 4 years, 2 of which are almost gone. The movement must be strong enough and large enough to survive whatever comes next. We didn’t win the war with a single election, we won a battle. There is still far to go, and each choice must be carefully weighed to continue growing the movement. Lasting change is made gradually.

You can’t fabricate convenient find a way to encourage the movement toward your goals without throwing the entire thing away. I will assume the best of your intentions - be careful with your words. You have the power to do tremendous harm to this movement. Help to shape into what you would want it to be instead of working to divide and destroy it. You offer no alternative solution - so let’s build rather than destroy, huh?

Kelly Reardon's avatar

Here's my response:

The PATIENT is BLEEDING OUT!!...

There are some out there who criticize those of us who continue to push to get the modified mRNA-LNP genetic transfection PLATFORM banned...

Some saying that because people can individually "just say no", that there's no need to pull the mRNA shots from the market or ban the platform...just ensure informed consent...

Some saying that their focus is on getting the toxins out of our food and environment, and that they don't want to take any "vaccine" choices away from anyone...

Let me use a triage analogy:

Right now, the patient is bleeding out, suffering from turbo cancer, and suddenly & "unexpectedly" dropping dead.

The immediate focus needs to be on stopping the thing that is killing the patient!!!

AFTER that, we can focus on optimizing the patient's health with nutritious clean food, clean safe air and water, etc.

The modified mRNA-LNP gene "therapy" transfection platform has, AND CONTINUES, to injure, disable, and kill an unprecedented number of people.

It is a genetic transfection platform that SHEDS ONTO OTHERS, potentially injuring those of us who said "Hell NO!" to those modified mRNA-LNP shots...

Thereby completely BYPASSING our fundamental RIGHT to INFORMED CONSENT and violating our bodily autonomy...

A genetic transfection platform that has already contaminated the blood supply...

A genetic transfection platform that can and has integrated into people's DNA...

A genetic transfection platform that has disastrously affected fertility and human reproductive capacity...

A genetic transfection platform that by its very design, is INHERENTLY & PREDICTABLY dangerous...

Toxic & inflammatory LNPs uncontrollably biodistribute systemically throughout the body and transfect the cells of tissues and organ inside the body, delivering the synthetic modified mRNA with instructions for those cells to produce/express foreign non-self proteins...

Triggering a PREDICTABLE immune system attack response, starting with the Killer T-Lymphocyte cells which will target and kill as many of those formerly healthy cells that are now expressing non-self proteins...Starting a cascade of harm/damage to cells, tissues and organs inside the body...

A genetic transfection platform that hijacks your cellular functions, reprogramming your own cells to produce toxic, inflammatory non-self proteins, thereby sentencing those very cells to death via your own immune system's normally functioning immune defenses...

It is a genetic transfection platform that, despite the unfathomable & horrific injuries and deaths, continues AND HAS EXPANDED.

Right now, the patient is getting turbo cancer, getting amyloid-like fibrous clots, suffering from life-altering and life-threatening neurological and autoimmune diseases, having their fertility and human reproductive capacity destroyed, getting myocarditis, having cardiac arrests and strokes, suffering from immune deficiency, experiencing immune system collapse...AND DROPPING DEAD.

We MUST 1st stop the thing that is KILLING THE PATIENT!!!

William's avatar

FDA needs a house cleaning and the revolving door needs to be removed

SailingAway's avatar

Such a unique sentiment

Alfalfa's avatar

Another story that doesn't add up.