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TeeJae's avatar

I find it interesting (to put it nicely) that with regard to vaccines, the FDA, CDC and their respective advisory committees have no problem with the lack of proper safety/efficacy studies, basically rubber-stamping almost all new vaccines. AND that 'critics' are suddenly concerned about advisory panel ties to the peptide industry, while they turn a blind eye (or even support) VRBPAC's and ACIP's actual ties to vaccine makers. Yet, for products that actually support and/or improve health (i.e. peptides), these "regulatory" agencies suddenly grow a "conscience" and apply strict scrutiny. Hypocrites, all.

Informed Consent Freedom's avatar

I find your complete lack of insight, judgement, and sense of proportionality barely interesting, because it's so typical.

Laura's avatar

It’s all about the $$$, they don’t want you healthy, sick is more profitable.

Just a Clinician's avatar

ANY injectable MUST go through properly constructed safety trials and efficacy trials.

Marcy Bliss's avatar

It is good to see compounding positioned as legal, regulated, and ethical, as it is and has been for many decades. Nearly all articles written by MSM (and influenced by big pharma) consistently pair the words “illegal” or “illegitimate” with “compounding.” The only “illegal” making of drugs is the gray market mentioned in the article, where the entities preparing the drug are not licensed, inspected, or required to meet rigorous quality standards. As a professional who worked in this industry for 25 years, I’m proud to see compounding recognized as a legal and critical part of our healthcare system in providing therapies prescribed by doctors when no FDA-approved drug exists to treat the unique needs of those patients.

Kathy Boston's avatar

Off topic: I kept asking why Kennedy has not taken the Covid vaccine off the market but then I saw Elizabeth Warren go after him recently for not “recommending”” certain vaccines. And his argument was that they are still available for those who want them.

And then I remembered before he got appointed secretary, some in Congress were worried that he was going to take vaccines off the market and he said he would not do that. They would be available for those who want them.

Renee C.'s avatar

There are people who still want them so let them have them.

Praise Dear Leader's avatar

Mahanian double standards

Maybe's avatar
1dEdited

No randomized double-blind placebo controlled trials for these. Saline placebo, or any placebo. No double blind trials. No human trials at all for some of these. "Voters support the change." What voters?

Ben Fen's avatar

Most major vaccines in widespread use did not go through the saline controlled RCTs that you apparently assume they did https://www.vaccines.news/2024-08-19-cdc-childhood-vaccines-conceals-adverse-events.html#

Maybe's avatar

Actually, some of these "peptides" haven't undergone any studies in humans. Not even Phase 1 basic pharmacokinetics and toxicology evaluation. But no biggie ...

TeeJae's avatar

It's "no biggie" because they've already undergone DECADES of real-world "trials" by being, as the article states, "safely prepared by pharmacies for decades, and millions of people have been using them, as they have been using vitamins and supplements the FDA never approved through drug trials either."

Maybe's avatar
20hEdited

Absolutely incorrect. The first to be discussed will be BPC-157,KPV, TB-500 (a fragment of thymosin beta-4), MOTs-C, emideltide, heptapeptide, and Epitalon. The next meeting will discuss cathelicidin (LL-37), GHK-Cu, Dihexa-acetate, Melanotan II, pegylsted mechano growth factor (PEG-MGF).

BPC-157 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPC-157?wprov=sfla1

TB-500 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TB-500?wprov=sfla1

GHK-Cu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_peptide_GHK-Cu?wprov=sfla1

Cathelicidins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathelicidin_antimicrobial_peptide?wprov=sfla1

BPC-157 - See last paragraph - https://arthroscopyjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.arthro.2024.09.005

TeeJae's avatar

That doesn't refute my comment.

Root Causes's avatar

It more than refutes your claim. You are playing games. None of the 14 drugs RFK is planning to rush to market has been used for decades, or even years. Many haven't been used in humans at all, outside extreme bodybuilding circles.

These two did make it to early human trials, but development was discontinued for safety concerns and lack of efficacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJC-1295

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipamorelin

Barbara Charis's avatar

The stupidity of all who accept toxic injections into the human bloodstream. I was the same and nearly lost my first child, because I never thought to ask what ingredients were in the injections he was given. When I read Vaccination is NOT Immunization by Dr. Tim O'Shea and saw the items in childhood vaccines listed...I came to the realization what a scam the entire vaccine industry was

Kaycee's avatar
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So the FDA was great about have zero double blind placebo trials, nor years of study and follow up, for the Covid mRNA shots (NOT VACCINES) and let them get a free pass, yet they want to restrict peptides which have been used for years for the most part safely? And few clinical trials because what, Big Pharma can't monetize that and make a fortune? that would be my guess. I am sure there are smarter people out here than me that can correct me if I am wrong.

Renee C.'s avatar

Getting ready to try my first peptide soon. Go Bobby Jr., GO! This is what we voted for, and thank you. I had no idea that he used peptides too. Cool.