A federal advisory committee votes July 23 and 24 on whether U.S. pharmacies can fill peptide prescriptions again. Voters back it, some FDA scientists don't.
I find it interesting (to put it nicely) that with regard to vaccines, the FDA, CDC and their respective advisory committees have no problem with the lack of proper safety/efficacy studies, basically rubber-stamping almost all new vaccines. AND that 'critics' are suddenly concerned about advisory panel ties to the peptide industry, while they turn a blind eye (or even support) VRBPAC's and ACIP's actual ties to vaccine makers. Yet, for products that actually support and/or improve health (i.e. peptides), these "regulatory" agencies suddenly grow a "conscience" and apply strict scrutiny. Hypocrites, all.
Tired talking point. The "wellness spas" and "longevity medicine practices" and websites selling these injectables charge hundreds per dose and thousands per treatment course.
No randomized double-blind placebo controlled trials for these. Saline placebo, or any placebo. No double blind trials. No human trials at all for some of these. "Voters support the change." What voters?
Actually, some of these "peptides" haven't undergone any studies in humans. Not even Phase 1 basic pharmacokinetics and toxicology evaluation. But no biggie ...
It's "no biggie" because they've already undergone DECADES of real-world "trials" by being, as the article states, "safely prepared by pharmacies for decades, and millions of people have been using them, as they have been using vitamins and supplements the FDA never approved through drug trials either."
Absolutely incorrect. The first to be discussed will be BPC-157,KPV, TB-500 (a fragment of thymosin beta-4), MOTs-C, emideltide, heptapeptide, and Epitalon. The next meeting will discuss cathelicidin (LL-37), GHK-Cu, Dihexa-acetate, Melanotan II, pegylsted mechano growth factor (PEG-MGF).
Thank you so much for sharing this information. Perhaps, if parents knew this, they would be able to make wiser decisions...and not vaccinate.. When I read Vaccination is NOT Immunization and it listed all the toxic items that are in the childhood vaccines, I was appalled that I had permitted the doctor to inject my first child. He had a serious reaction and it is a miracle he survived. Injecting toxic poison into the human body used to be considered a crime.
The stupidity of all who accept toxic injections into the human bloodstream. I was the same and nearly lost my first child, because I never thought to ask what ingredients were in the injections he was given. When I read Vaccination is NOT Immunization by Dr. Tim O'Shea and saw the items in childhood vaccines listed...I came to the realization what a scam the entire vaccine industry was
From Dr. Pierre Kory this morning…In clinical trials, safety monitoring for adverse reactions was extremely short:
Hepatitis B vaccine: Tested on only 147 infants/children and monitored for just 5 days before approval.
Hepatitis A vaccine: Monitored for 14 days.
Meningococcal (meningitis) vaccine: Monitored for 7 days.
Prevnar (pneumococcal) vaccine: Monitored for 7 days.
MMR vaccine: Followed for 42 days.
RSV vaccine: Monitored for 30 days.
DTaP / Tdap vaccines: Monitored for 14 days.
Gardasil (HPV) vaccine: Monitored for 14 days.
Crucially, no childhood vaccine has ever been tested against a true inert saline placebo. Trial “placebos” have instead used aluminum adjuvants or other vaccines:
Gardasil trial → placebo was Hepatitis A vaccine + aluminum adjuvant
Hepatitis A trial → placebo was Hepatitis B vaccine
Influenza trial → placebo was the other flu strain vaccine
Meningitis trial → placebo was DTaP
Pertussis trial → placebo was Tetanus + Diphtheria
Polio trial → placebo was diluted polio vaccine
Vaxelis (6-in-1) trial → placebo was DTaP + Polio + Hib + Hep B
Hepatitis B trial → placebo was aluminum adjuvant alone
Silly billy crumple knows not of control arms. Hoary kory charges $1200 for a telemed appointment with a peanut-paid peon. And much of your paste is incorrect.
It is good to see compounding positioned as legal, regulated, and ethical, as it is and has been for many decades. Nearly all articles written by MSM (and influenced by big pharma) consistently pair the words “illegal” or “illegitimate” with “compounding.” The only “illegal” making of drugs is the gray market mentioned in the article, where the entities preparing the drug are not licensed, inspected, or required to meet rigorous quality standards. As a professional who worked in this industry for 25 years, I’m proud to see compounding recognized as a legal and critical part of our healthcare system in providing therapies prescribed by doctors when no FDA-approved drug exists to treat the unique needs of those patients.
This isn't about the pharmacies. It's about experimental, no studies in humans (most of them) chemicals legitimized - and sold as "natural," when they're not - for lots of money.
Off topic: I kept asking why Kennedy has not taken the Covid vaccine off the market but then I saw Elizabeth Warren go after him recently for not “recommending”” certain vaccines. And his argument was that they are still available for those who want them.
And then I remembered before he got appointed secretary, some in Congress were worried that he was going to take vaccines off the market and he said he would not do that. They would be available for those who want them.
So the FDA was great about have zero double blind placebo trials, nor years of study and follow up, for the Covid mRNA shots (NOT VACCINES) and let them get a free pass, yet they want to restrict peptides which have been used for years for the most part safely? And few clinical trials because what, Big Pharma can't monetize that and make a fortune? that would be my guess. I am sure there are smarter people out here than me that can correct me if I am wrong.
I agree on the sold as “natural” just because it is something found in the body—not appropriate to make that claim. However, more FDA-approved drugs are used off-label than on label, meaning there are no studies for the off-label use, basically making them experimental. They still become standards of therapy. And those that on label still carry risks. That is why you have to work with practitioners you know and trust and be well read yourself to understand what you are putting in your body and why. When taking ANY drug, ask for specific risks and side-effects and watch closely for adverse reactions.
I support the change as there is a lot of evidence that peptides are good for your health. Of course, you can buy peptide supplements in grocery stores.
I find it interesting (to put it nicely) that with regard to vaccines, the FDA, CDC and their respective advisory committees have no problem with the lack of proper safety/efficacy studies, basically rubber-stamping almost all new vaccines. AND that 'critics' are suddenly concerned about advisory panel ties to the peptide industry, while they turn a blind eye (or even support) VRBPAC's and ACIP's actual ties to vaccine makers. Yet, for products that actually support and/or improve health (i.e. peptides), these "regulatory" agencies suddenly grow a "conscience" and apply strict scrutiny. Hypocrites, all.
I find your complete lack of insight, judgement, and sense of proportionality barely interesting, because it's so typical.
I don't care what you (or your fake automatic "likes") think.
ANY injectable MUST go through properly constructed safety trials and efficacy trials.
Tell that to the vaccine industry and its "regulators."
It’s all about the $$$, they don’t want you healthy, sick is more profitable.
Tired talking point. The "wellness spas" and "longevity medicine practices" and websites selling these injectables charge hundreds per dose and thousands per treatment course.
No randomized double-blind placebo controlled trials for these. Saline placebo, or any placebo. No double blind trials. No human trials at all for some of these. "Voters support the change." What voters?
Most major vaccines in widespread use did not go through the saline controlled RCTs that you apparently assume they did https://www.vaccines.news/2024-08-19-cdc-childhood-vaccines-conceals-adverse-events.html#
Actually, some of these "peptides" haven't undergone any studies in humans. Not even Phase 1 basic pharmacokinetics and toxicology evaluation. But no biggie ...
It's "no biggie" because they've already undergone DECADES of real-world "trials" by being, as the article states, "safely prepared by pharmacies for decades, and millions of people have been using them, as they have been using vitamins and supplements the FDA never approved through drug trials either."
Absolutely incorrect. The first to be discussed will be BPC-157,KPV, TB-500 (a fragment of thymosin beta-4), MOTs-C, emideltide, heptapeptide, and Epitalon. The next meeting will discuss cathelicidin (LL-37), GHK-Cu, Dihexa-acetate, Melanotan II, pegylsted mechano growth factor (PEG-MGF).
BPC-157 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPC-157?wprov=sfla1
TB-500 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TB-500?wprov=sfla1
GHK-Cu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_peptide_GHK-Cu?wprov=sfla1
Cathelicidins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathelicidin_antimicrobial_peptide?wprov=sfla1
BPC-157 - See last paragraph - https://arthroscopyjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.arthro.2024.09.005
The article is flat out wrong about that.
Thank you so much for sharing this information. Perhaps, if parents knew this, they would be able to make wiser decisions...and not vaccinate.. When I read Vaccination is NOT Immunization and it listed all the toxic items that are in the childhood vaccines, I was appalled that I had permitted the doctor to inject my first child. He had a serious reaction and it is a miracle he survived. Injecting toxic poison into the human body used to be considered a crime.
The stupidity of all who accept toxic injections into the human bloodstream. I was the same and nearly lost my first child, because I never thought to ask what ingredients were in the injections he was given. When I read Vaccination is NOT Immunization by Dr. Tim O'Shea and saw the items in childhood vaccines listed...I came to the realization what a scam the entire vaccine industry was
From Dr. Pierre Kory this morning…In clinical trials, safety monitoring for adverse reactions was extremely short:
Hepatitis B vaccine: Tested on only 147 infants/children and monitored for just 5 days before approval.
Hepatitis A vaccine: Monitored for 14 days.
Meningococcal (meningitis) vaccine: Monitored for 7 days.
Prevnar (pneumococcal) vaccine: Monitored for 7 days.
MMR vaccine: Followed for 42 days.
RSV vaccine: Monitored for 30 days.
DTaP / Tdap vaccines: Monitored for 14 days.
Gardasil (HPV) vaccine: Monitored for 14 days.
Crucially, no childhood vaccine has ever been tested against a true inert saline placebo. Trial “placebos” have instead used aluminum adjuvants or other vaccines:
Gardasil trial → placebo was Hepatitis A vaccine + aluminum adjuvant
Hepatitis A trial → placebo was Hepatitis B vaccine
Influenza trial → placebo was the other flu strain vaccine
Meningitis trial → placebo was DTaP
Pertussis trial → placebo was Tetanus + Diphtheria
Polio trial → placebo was diluted polio vaccine
Vaxelis (6-in-1) trial → placebo was DTaP + Polio + Hib + Hep B
Hepatitis B trial → placebo was aluminum adjuvant alone
Largely false.
Silly billy crumple knows not of control arms. Hoary kory charges $1200 for a telemed appointment with a peanut-paid peon. And much of your paste is incorrect.
Thanks for sharing! I copied down this information and your information from vaccine news.
Mahanian double standards
It is good to see compounding positioned as legal, regulated, and ethical, as it is and has been for many decades. Nearly all articles written by MSM (and influenced by big pharma) consistently pair the words “illegal” or “illegitimate” with “compounding.” The only “illegal” making of drugs is the gray market mentioned in the article, where the entities preparing the drug are not licensed, inspected, or required to meet rigorous quality standards. As a professional who worked in this industry for 25 years, I’m proud to see compounding recognized as a legal and critical part of our healthcare system in providing therapies prescribed by doctors when no FDA-approved drug exists to treat the unique needs of those patients.
This isn't about the pharmacies. It's about experimental, no studies in humans (most of them) chemicals legitimized - and sold as "natural," when they're not - for lots of money.
Off topic: I kept asking why Kennedy has not taken the Covid vaccine off the market but then I saw Elizabeth Warren go after him recently for not “recommending”” certain vaccines. And his argument was that they are still available for those who want them.
And then I remembered before he got appointed secretary, some in Congress were worried that he was going to take vaccines off the market and he said he would not do that. They would be available for those who want them.
There are people who still want them so let them have them.
Getting ready to try my first peptide soon. Go Bobby Jr., GO! This is what we voted for, and thank you. I had no idea that he used peptides too. Cool.
So the FDA was great about have zero double blind placebo trials, nor years of study and follow up, for the Covid mRNA shots (NOT VACCINES) and let them get a free pass, yet they want to restrict peptides which have been used for years for the most part safely? And few clinical trials because what, Big Pharma can't monetize that and make a fortune? that would be my guess. I am sure there are smarter people out here than me that can correct me if I am wrong.
You're not wrong. No correction necessary.
And they won't call out big pharma from selling us dangerous drugs like statins and SSRIs.
If the FDA didn't stop big pharma why are they stopping this?
Same reason why Kennedy won't stop the COVID emergency until 2027.... Even though he could've done it easily when put into office.
https://www.unbekoming.com/p/what-is-the-prep-act?lli=1&utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
It's all bs.
They are unlikely to listen to me. Nevertheless, in an ideal world, that's what should be done.
I agree on the sold as “natural” just because it is something found in the body—not appropriate to make that claim. However, more FDA-approved drugs are used off-label than on label, meaning there are no studies for the off-label use, basically making them experimental. They still become standards of therapy. And those that on label still carry risks. That is why you have to work with practitioners you know and trust and be well read yourself to understand what you are putting in your body and why. When taking ANY drug, ask for specific risks and side-effects and watch closely for adverse reactions.
I support the change as there is a lot of evidence that peptides are good for your health. Of course, you can buy peptide supplements in grocery stores.