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Debbie's avatar

Very interesting and won't gays and transgenders be pissed when they find out that chemicals caused their mental illness. They wouldn't listen and psychiatrists, surgeons, and clinics made tons of money off of them. Why pussyfoot around Secretary Kennedy? These companies know exactly what's harmful. Don't give them years to clean it up, make them do it now.

Karen Schultz's avatar

Possibly one reason is that these chemicals are not illegal yet. It’s going to take legislation to get them banned. Kind of like illicit drugs. Until they’re listed as banned scheduled substances by law, they are legal to have and use.

Debbie's avatar

Anything that harms a human being is illegal. You don't need legislation for that one friend.

Me Mcc's avatar

Kind of like the flouride in toothpaste and glyphosates in our food! The government proves that they are harmful then authorizes them for use with the other!!! My niece maker her own detergent for laundry... Looks like I'm heading that way, too!!! I already have begun making my own cleaner... So much better.

Debbie's avatar

Don't stop with fluoride in your toothpaste, it's in your floss and drinking water too. Let's make sure the pineal gland is good and calcified.

Me Mcc's avatar

I'm lucky... Well water. They are trying to force us onto the city water. I'm resisting all the way; we also filter what we have

Karen Schultz's avatar

If you have a well on your own property, and it’s clean water, you should be able to use it.

Are they digging a new line through the neighborhood? They are probably counting on all the residents signing up to defray the cost of laying the line. I don’t see how they can force you into it unless there’s some ordinance for the area.

Debbie's avatar

Don't be fooled with well water being clean. The soil is contaminated too, hence filters are the best option for now or distilling your water.

Karen Schultz's avatar

You might check out Clean People detergent. https://www.getcleanpeople.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopxpz7_9v84X9dOHXYOv8aXdsIuCeRqyi78F8XY747r_mB0h-PR

They dry the into a small flat piece of what looks like paper. Just toss it in the washer with your clothes. I add a little borax for whitening and it works well for me. There’s no big box or plastic container, it comes in a box smaller than a business envelope . I hope this helps. And no, I have no affiliation with the company!

Me Mcc's avatar

I'm with you on this .. I've thought this for years. Chemicals and shots...

Kathy Boston's avatar

Glad this is being discussed. I have a chemical sensitivity that started this year. If I’m around these chemical fragrances, my airways close up. I can’t go anywhere without being affected including the doctors office, Dentist, GYM, being around anybody who uses scented laundry products, perfume, cologne . I’ll go for a walk through the neighborhood and I can smell the chemicals through the dryer vents. Scented laundry products off-gas. There is the woman at my gym that I cannot be around.

Tyde, Gain, Fabuloso are brutal on the respiratory system. The boosters and dryer sheets are killers. Affects pets too. Very bad for the environment as well.

Most public bathroom has a toxic air fresheners.

There is a law firm in California Cole and van NOTE that are rolling out class action lawsuits against companies that use these toxic fragrances. Some businesses such as the Marriott hotel are pumping chemical fragrance through their HVAC systems, airports are now doing this too.

We are being poisoned on all sides.

If you stop using any chemical fragrance for a couple months you’ll notice a huge difference when you’re around them.

This goes for cleaning products too. My favorite cleaner is hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle. Works awesome. Vinegar and baking soda work well too

For laundry detergent, I like the unscented laundry detergent sheets by Mollys Suds.

It’s not only safe but it eliminates the plastic bottle. And they’re not tested on animals because they’re not dangerous.

Debbie's avatar

Fragrances give me migraines. Wonder how many others have the same problem and no one knows. Listen to your body people.

Karen Schultz's avatar

I used to have the same problem. Smoke, cologne or perfume gave me migraines often. Now that I’m retired, I control the fragrance so I have fewer triggers.

There are expensive designer perfumes that smelled like bug spray to me. Just revolting.

UnderBabied's avatar

Likewise - some of them, some of the time. Even without that, I just don't like fragrance in so many products.

Tammy Proko's avatar

Breast cancer rates are going up because of statin use in women and very likely the Covid MRNA shots. That does not discount aluminum in deodorant or household and environmental toxins, but these facts cannot be ignored!

Lysenko's avatar

There is no evidence supporting your claims.

Me Mcc's avatar

Deodorant is a big one because of the chemicals. I developed lumps under both arms until I changed to a deodorant with no bad stuff. I still developed bc, though. Guess it was too late to reverse all of the bad... But the lumps under my arm did disappear after a couple of years.

Maybe's avatar
2hEdited

Which chemical classes beyond phthalates specifically? How will FDA be taking this hard look?

"It’s a reversal of the old order, when a chemical stayed on the shelf until a body count forced the issue that resulted in rigorous testing." --- That's how it is for supplements - not for cosmetics.

Karen Whitney's avatar

Thank you for the article. I have switched to safe cosmetics, shampoo, conditioner, body wash and lotions. Dish soap and detergent and more. There are great companies out there that sell safe products and there is a group called mamavation that does extensive research. I also use an app called Yuka to check products. I hope one day all harmful products will be banned along with the fda!

TeeJae's avatar

While we wait for the government's typical snails pace to "protect" us, we consumers can take matters into our own hands. There are now plenty of non-toxic/organic product lines out there to choose from. For household/cleaning, I use Truly Free and Cheeky Maiden. For personal care products, I use Andalou, Attitude, Little Seed Farm, and Cheeky Maiden. Environmental Working Group's 'Verified' page (ewg.org/ewgverified/) makes it super easy to find all the products we need!

Lysenko's avatar
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Your claim that cosmetics need no premarket approval ignores The Modernization of Cosmetics Regulation Act of 2022 (MoCRA), which substantially strengthened FDA oversight. Most cosmetic facilities now must register, some color additives require premarket approval, responsible persons must list marketed cosmetic products, and companies have new adverse-event reporting and safety-substantiation obligations.

Debbie's avatar

Oh, so why hasn't lead been on the label for lipstick for instance? And why aren't fragrance ingredients listed? The ones that last forever on bodies and stick to everything that person touches to affect others

Lysenko's avatar

Things like laundry detergent, fabric softener and dryer sheets fall under the Consumer Product Safety Commission's jurisdiction - Different agency. Has it been eliminated yet?

Fragrance in cosmetics such as perfume and lotion fall under FDA’s cosmetic framework. FDA acknowledges that some fragrance constituents can cause allergic reactions or sensitivities, but the FDA doesn't have the same authority to require cosmetic allergen labeling that it has for foods.

US law permits manufacturers of cosmetics to withhold the identities of individual fragrance constituents from consumers under the “fragrance” designation, principally because of trade-secret protections, even though some constituents can cause sensitization and consumers cannot determine their presence from the label.

Have any rule revisions been proposed? Or just press releases and podcast appearances?

Lysenko's avatar
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Lead is generally not intentionally added to lipstick as an ingredient. It can occur as a contaminant or impurity in pigments, minerals and other raw materials.

US labeling law requires manufacturers to list the ingredients they intentionally put into the product, but it doesn't require them to list every trace contaminant. FDA therefore treats lead in lipstick as an impurity, rather than an ingredient that has to appear on the label. That's not because FDA regards lead as an acceptable ingredient. It is because the regulatory framework distinguishes between an intentionally added ingredient and an unavoidable contaminant.

FDA's position is not that lipstick must contain zero lead. FDA recommends a maximum of 10 ppm (0.001%) lead as an impurity in lip products. Its survey of 685 cosmetics found that more than 99% were at or below 10 ppm.

Debbie's avatar

Oh and you rely on the FDA? What a joke. I learned a long time ago about the intentional addition of lead and how it keeps the lipstick on for hours. You must be a chemist or risk manager for a cosmetic company. Lead is just one ingredient. Bet you can't explain why a lot of women can't wear makeup or have to use extra products to rectify the damage it causes. More products with harmful ingredients which in turn is more money to the companies. It's a scam all the way around.

Lysenko's avatar

What do you propose? What rules and what referee(s)?

Johnny deldeo's avatar

There's a app called yuka that tells you which products are safe and wich ones are not. She said something about aluminum being bad

dina 🇺🇸🩷🗡️'s avatar

How can we eliminate every item? Which detergents are best? I don’t use store bought body cream. I try my best to find safe products, constantly. But our products are infested with filth. We need to remove EVERY, SINGLE, item available, that is hazardous to our health. Only make healthy products available for SALE. I understand business, but this is ridiculous. Thank you for letting me vent. lol. ❤️

UnderBabied's avatar

Much if this was already in progress under MoCRA from 2022, so good. Keep him away from medications and vaccines.