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GenX1966's avatar

So its already been determined that Aluminium in deodorants and such is linked to Alzheimers but they want to study if it is safe for vaccines? How does this make sense?

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Exactly. Just another diversion, and waste of our taxes. It’s ridiculous.

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Center Field's avatar

No diversion. Proper controlled studies, which were never performed by the former "controllers."

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truth seeker's avatar

Have spent decades examining "proper controls"

Doctorate level.

The research industry has ALWAYS been pay to play.

The Data is uneqivocal.

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Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

Great point. There is so much ignorance (victimhood?) in comments that it is difficult to address all.

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truth seeker's avatar

The word ignorance means to ignore. That is exactly what academia and studies have accomplished. It is a dog chasing its tail. Doctorate level goons

deliberately obscure data to reflect desired outcomes.

Comment section is populated with exceptoins by people with lack of knowledge.

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Center Field's avatar

Please see my comment. Since controlled studies were NEVER done, they are being done now in order to have TRUE test data and not just wishful conjecture.

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Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

Agreed. And for those who still don't get it . . . The CDC (our disease control leader?) never provided requested data because there was no required data/true data to provide.

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Tee Rigodanzo's avatar

In case you haven't been paying attention, many things (viruses, vaccines, etc) affect different age groups differently. How you could not want the best/gold standard science is beyond me. Here's hoping you/your family are never affected by some slipshod decisions that weren't properly 'studied' . . . btw there are 100+ types of dementia of which Alzheimer's is one.

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truth seeker's avatar

Except that "virus" does not exist. Re-read as often as necessary.

You are advertising "types" of dementia. Clearly that is a dog chasing its tail.

We are not canines.

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truth seeker's avatar

It does not as you point out. And its deliberate.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Oh, no. Not another study. We don’t need a study to tell us that aluminum shouldn’t be injected into humans. Stop it!

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LC Up's avatar

At last. True scientific research available to the public. A strange concept but one that works. I’m cheering you on.

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Willard Hall's avatar

...to paraphrase MLK: The arc of History is slow, but it moves in the direction of justice.

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First Amendment's avatar

Similarly to ethyl- vs. methyl-mercury, I can see MSM claiming that certain forms of aluminum are safe. It will be interesting to see if, when the truth comes out, the fact that aluminum has been in vaccines since the 1920's wakes people up.

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truth seeker's avatar

Now the "discussion" is about which type is toxic or toxic-er.

The obfuscation is deliberate.

Methyl groups (CH3) are important detox agents for those in the know.

However shills at the WHO crow about the safety of Ethyl HG suggesting the "half life" is short.

As you allude waking up in this case is loss of confidence.

That is the domino effect.

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VN Alexander's avatar

Finally!

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Guy Montag, E-451's avatar

“'Do either of the two different aluminum adjuvants increase the risk of asthma?' … A 2023 analysis by Daley et al. reported an adjusted hazard ratio of 1.19 to 1.26 for persistent asthma per 1 mg aluminum exposure before age two, with elevated risk in children with eczema.”

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In their 2023 book, ” Vax-Unvax – Let the Science Speak,”*1 RFK Jr & Brian Hooker noted (p. 36) the rate of asthma went up by 1.36x to 1.61x when comparing children injected with < 3 mg AL vs > 3 mg AL.

In a 9/28/22 CHD article*2, Hooker “noted the CDC never did a comparison study with children who weren’t exposed to aluminum at all in their vaccines. 'A true comparison should be [done] between the maximum aluminum exposure at 2 years of age (which is about 4 mg total injected aluminum adjuvant) and a zero exposure group.' “

“He continued: “In the paper I did with Neil Miller (SAGE Open Medicine, 2020), we saw an odds ratio of 4.49 (statistically significant) for asthma in vaccinated children versus unvaccinated children. … “The CDC seems to be confirming my results here.”

It's worth noting that the Henry Ford Study*4 had similar results, with an IRR of 4.09x for asthma diagnoses (p. 16, Table 2) for children of all ages.

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However, it appears that Hooker, and others, did NOT read Daley's Supplementary Data.*3

It appears to me that the Daley study*27 was close to being a Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed study. The group receiving 0 – 0.99 mg AL was largely unvaxxed (instead of counting the number of vaccines, they measured the amount of aluminum (mg AL) injected into children).

Supplementary Table 3 appears to shows a dose-response relationship; the rate of asthma rose from 1x to 4.00x as the amount of AL rises from (0 – 0.99) to 5 mg (with 4 mg being the avg injected into children). Supplementary Figure 3 shows the corresponding survival curves.

The effect size of 2.5x - 4 x are similar to those found by Hooker and Zervos. Much higher than the misleading “small effect size” of “1.26 per 1 mg increase in AL” described in Daley's abstract.

Am I interpreting the Supplementary Data correctly? It it possible that no one has noticed this before?

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REFERENCES:

*1: https://www.amazon.com/Vax-Unvax-Childrens-Health-Defense-Kennedy/dp/1510766960

*2: Suzanne Burdick, Children's health Defense, “36% Higher Risk of Asthma in Some Kids Who Had Vaccine-Related Aluminum Exposure, CDC Study Shows” https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/asthma-risk-kids-vaccine-aluminum-exposure-cdc-study/

*3: Supplementary data found online at https://doi.org/10.1016/j.acap.2022.08.006

*4: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Siri-Testimony-1.pdf and

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf

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truth seeker's avatar

A dog doth chase its tail. It is actually very very simple.

Do not inject toxins. Beginning and end of graduate level course.

If people without knowledge about health, could comprehend that simple fact,

the discussion is absolutely un-necessary. Evidence convinced which fool???

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Vicki Johnson's avatar

We were all Told to ditch our aluminum pans because of alzheimer’s risk - but let's inject the poison into our kids?

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truth seeker's avatar

Actually you were correctly warned about aluminum bio accumuation in fatty tissue and the fact that the heavy metal crossed the blood brain barrier. As you point out it is patently insane. Thank the delivery boys, the Medical Doctors.

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truth seeker's avatar

The word that is prescient is Biology. The study of life. Willfully injecting toxins into the arms of a clueless population is a rather amazing act of malfaesance. It requires compliance and a plethora of false beliefs. Those who became adults without knowledge of Biology are sitting ducks.

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truth seeker's avatar

Sort of... The truth is very very different. We can pretend that Aluminum used as an adjuvant being neurotoxic is a new finding. That was not true a few decades ago.

Aluminum used in the capacity of an adjuvant is more neurotoxic that Mercury.

We actually are way beyond the need for more "studies". Evidence convinced no fool.

There is a way forward as confidence in the entire Vax Quax industry AND the Medical Cartel has never been less. Dr. Exeter has spent his life exposing Aluminum toxicity. He is the foremost expert anyone could mention.

We are witnessing the entire Quaxcine industry get exposed for the fraud it has always been.

Some of us have known the details for many decades.

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Catherine Hawkins's avatar

As Dr. Robert Malone is part of this new work study group , I do hope every facet is included upon the evaluation of the aluminum content . The accumulation alone is questionable, let alone the weight and age of the infant should be a factor in reviewing all the past studies . It’s refreshing to see that the problem with aluminum is now being questioned and hopefully we can get to the depth to why our children have health issues that have multiplied over the years to dangerous levels. Every stone unturned ( environment , lifestyle , nutrition) will bring us too answers for the benefit of our children. There is never one answer to a problem.

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truth seeker's avatar

Bioaccumulatin well established decades ago for those that cared to accumulate health information.

Dr. Maloney is a "virologist" . That is a totally fraudulent academic only title.

However he seems to have broken rank for the A team.

Heavy metals (all of them) accumulate mostly in fatty issue to include the brain.

Some target bone as the resovoir.

Turning over stones is simply asking better questions, the hallmark of science.

Its an endless game directed by pay to play shills at the top of the tree.

The reason some take the time to reply is mostly for the thousands who lurk...

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Inalienable Sovereignty's avatar

Aside from neurotoxicity, and along with MMF, people can also suffer from multiple variations of a granulomatous response. Granulomas are well documented in both human and veterinarian journals. For those whose injuries go undetected for years, such macrophagic lesions can lead to granulomas that mature into multifocal lesions with heterotopic ossification.

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truth seeker's avatar

You are describing scar tissue... and its degeneration into calcification.

No need to complicate it.

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Center Field's avatar

While this concept may seem "laborious" to some, RFKjr and the agencies are simply performing the government investigatory work which will be taken into account with pertinent other studies and empirical evidence, because proper studies and proper control groups had never been utilized previously!

As another writer stated elsewhere today, and I'm paraphrasing: Good Lord, the nimrods took 60-plus years to mess up this country. Today's administration is working as fast as they can to INVESTIGATE and offer PROOF to Americans...not simply more pablum and conjecture.

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Kathy Boston's avatar

Bottom line, toxic heavy metals are not safe... they bypass the blood brain barrier. And metals can be passed on from parent to child that's why a parent might be bipolar and same with a child It's not genetic.

Why doesn't pharma work towards making vaccine safe? Why are they insistent on putting so many dangerous adjuvants in the formula? And why doesn't the the medical industry and government use supplements to boost the immune system? Vitamin C and liquid zinc are highly effective against Covid and the flu. Should be covered under health insurance. (high quality supplements, not the crappy ones with fillers)

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Aliss Terpstra's avatar

I would feel a whole lot better if the Workgroup was going to study the toxicity, the biodistribution, end point accumulation and biological interactions, but more important, expose the pretense of necessity. If you're going to review and study 'safety' it implies that these alum compounds were already found safe but just need extra government-funded lookies to make sure.

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