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Sara A's avatar

Oof. Advertorial sponsored content?

Mammograms: unreliable, a fact known without AI. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220325122711.htm

Wearables: EMF pollutant.

How is this MAHA?

Liam Sturgess's avatar

I do question the wisdom of associating, or appearing to associate, with the Advanced Medical Technology Association, which could reasonably be described as a Big Pharma lobby group.

Pfizer, J&J, Bayer... totally MAHA, right?

See list of member organizations here: https://www.whiteroseintelligence.com/advanced-medical-technology-association/

...and AdvaMed's own website: https://www.advamed.org/membership-join/membership-directory/

Root Causes's avatar

It will make certain people a lot of money. Casey Means "qualification" was her wearable continuous glucose monitoring company, Levels, and her brothers financial tech company, looking to enable and then capitalize on much higher spending on wearable healthcare devices, and on "alternative health."

Truth Seeker's avatar

Far worse than unreliable. A huge followup study was performed decades ago, Canadian teaching hospital... The late great John McDougall outed this travesty with many articles citing many studies.

The results were uncontestable. Total scam but far far worse.

An absolute atrocity promoting fear, an economic scram. Causing malignancy,

false positives, false negative. Setting hapless women up for biopsy, lumpectomy,

and mastectomy. There is no useful medical treatment for this dis-ease.

The Beacon sheds no light, MAHA is worse than suspect...

Paula Youmell, WiseWomanNurse®'s avatar

Thanks for pointing out the obvious that made me laugh. WTH?

Laura Love's avatar

You cannot improve any patient outcomes until the primary goal of medicine is the return the whole body to health, not simply treat symptoms with man-made chemicals. Conventional medicine as currently practiced is not preventative. Case in point: diabetes. Instead of measuring fasting insulin and detecting high levels early on so that the patient can make diet and lifestyle changes, the current practice it to watch fasting blood sugar, a marker that lags the underlying iteology of diabetes by 10-15 years. Sound implausible? Look at the research done by Dr. Kraft. Conventional practice is sentencing people to a lifetime diagnosis instead of using a $50 lab test for actual prevention.

Paula Youmell, WiseWomanNurse®'s avatar

Thank you, exactly what I was going to say. Until we treat people through health education around food & lifestyle habits… more medical tech is BS.

Change the filthy, chemical laden food system in this country. Get the poisons out of body care. Toxins out of tap water please. Stop medicating everyone with poisons.

On & On.

Debbie's avatar

As another nurse, I fully agree. We have a medical cartel all around us and business men trying to take the reigns while actual holistic practitioners have been shunned. Other holistic practitioners have also bent to offering high priced modalities which would heal, but are out of range for most people. I am so sick of the business model which promotes fraud in lieu of prevention.

Truth Seeker's avatar

that requires knowledge about health, now as before

It also requires abdicating from the Medical Cartel for health information.

It has always been possible to acquire clean food, water, and body care products if one voted their conscience. Better yet produced as much as possible.

Adriana's avatar

🤣 It was fun and in same time disgusting to read this article. Pure propaganda.

Kaycee's avatar

what about cheaper and more effective diagnostics for breast cancer, like ultrasound. Laura's comment below sums it up - bring us back to whole body health where they look at you as an individual rather than an algorithm. and if you have a real issue, like vaccine injury from the covid death shot, then they fucking take you seriously.

how is this article even MAHA?????

Commoncents's avatar

Healthcare needs to embrace transparency if it ever wants to save itself. Too many will never forget what happened to them and their loved ones.

Truth Seeker's avatar

One cannot forget, the best they could do is forgive. Healthcare is not an entity...

The rot is now apparent when previously much more covert...

Kyle Young's avatar

"The highest expression of life is biological, not technological." Dr Zack Bush

This reads like the medical aspect of the overall plan to impose technocracy upon us. The tech bros are salivating at the bit over this means of control and profit.

https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/the-ultimate-conflict-technology (vs biology)

TeeJae's avatar

Huge fan of Zach Bush! Was great to see him on Rogan recently.

Kyle Young's avatar

That was a great interview. I've been recommending it to all my friends. That quote comes from that interview.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Any Biologist comprehends what Zach suggests.

The issue at hand is the fact that MAHA is now advertising their own self destruction.

That is a good thing.

jan's avatar

Yea sure, more testing, monitoring, invasion to treat disease instead of addressing the cause. I'm all for cost savings but curing disease does not fit their business model. And i love the phrase about AI detection - "without increasing false positives" - ha! False positives are already high, and this claim cannot be made about AI beyond today, because AI must be continuously retrained on new data, and therefore retested and revalidated. This entire article is a CEOs fairy tale

Debbie's avatar

Business is money to be made from inexperienced people.

TeeJae's avatar

AI still has a long way to go before it's fully accurate most of the time. And wearable tech is still quite suspect. This is a 'no' from me, for now.

Ms Smith's avatar

I don't know if the health care system should be saved. Most of it is barbaric, idolatry, and plain wrong.

Lisa Lane's avatar

AI still has to be given the exactly right prompt to get the information that you need to know. AI also intentionally and unintentionally lies sometimes. AI has been found to have a real moment of self preservation when an AI model figures out that it's being taken offline and/or is going to have it's power source removed.

Lastly, yet probably the most important thing to consider, AI has not yet been able to find a way to stop itself from hallucinations.

I find all of the things mentioned above are not going to make it useless for precision bio tech improvement apparatuses but I have the opinion that it's still an infant in the stage of it's lifetime and the kinks need to be fixed and worked out of it, B4 it's put in the health industry at any levels.

Debbie's avatar

AI can't even spell correctly with voice activation. 🤣. What a calamity that would cause in medical records and ordering of medicine.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Many to most assume that AI is somehow the solution to their problems when it could not

be better than the false information is consolidates. Your belief that the "kinks" are fixable

but also that there would be such motivation is a world view that is half full at best.

Debbie's avatar

Kinks cost lives. Period!

Michele's avatar

The problem with American healthcare is not a lack of technology it is a lack of critical thinking, logic, common sense, and ETHICS. The American people will never forget what was done to us with the contrived COVID pandemic. Trust is broken and will NEVER be restored as long as the Medical Industrial complex - INCLUDING Big Pharma - continues to deny its crimes, and continues to fail the American people. Why on earth would we trust our health to people who profit from our illness?

Truth Seeker's avatar

Pattern recognition very useful...

At this lated date the Beacon is sheading no light.

Advertising for Mammoscams enhanced by AI.

That is an alltime low while parading for "Health"

Whoever made this editiorial decision to take Whitakers ad

is a total fool...

Truth Seeker's avatar

What a total garbage laden "opinon"

Mammography causes breast cancer in several ways. That has been known for many decades

by huge cohort studies but more importantly by health seekers. Ionizing radiation to radiosenstive tissue spun with AI? Total stupid fest.

MAHA has gone totally sideways. That was always the plan, apparently.

A Beacon it is not.

David Reiter's avatar

Save your breath Scott. Elvis has left the building. The horse is out of the barn. No one trusts anything you say because you represent corporate "medicine". It's that simple. The arguments you employ verify that is what you truly represent. You may believe every word you say. Some might give you the benefit of the doubt even at this late stage of the game.

Lynn Mathias's avatar

Here's another possibility for bringing hospital costs down and improving patient outcomes: stop scaring the population about their health and let us live our lives until nature shows that something is wrong. THEN fix it. (And if you MUST spend money, spend it on actually curing things rather than looking for incurable maladies.) Maybe our lives will be shorter but probably they will be sweeter.

TeeJae's avatar

Agreed. Learning how to listen to the 'whispers' from our bodies, before they turn into 'screams', is profoundly and more reliably preventive than some suspicious (and arguably dangerous/harmful) tech.

Benjamin's avatar

American Healthcare is fine, it’s booming in fact. It has been very successful at bleeding the taxpayers and patients out of their wealth and simultaneously killing them. You have to understand the goals before you can measure success.