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lawrence greenberg's avatar

“But on this topic, the science is good. The science is credible. Vaccines save lives. They are safe. They do not cause autism. There are multiple studies that show this. They are a crucial part of our nation’s public health response.”

Every statement in this quotation is a lie. And more and more people are finally understanding and accepting that we have been lied to for many decades about drugs in general and vaccines in particular. They are absolutely NOT "safe and effective." In fact, nearly all of them are neither. Those few that do provide any benefit at all carry with them risks that far outweigh the benefit. The entire 'science' behind vaccines is a lie and a fraud. And now that the proof is starting to come out and be publicized, Big Pharma and their bought-and-paid-for cronies in the medical profession, in elective office, in academia, and in the media are being exposed for exactly what they are: enemies of the people. They should all rot in Hell for eternity for what they have done to us, especially for what they have done to our children.

Vivien C Buckley's avatar

Enemies of the people? You’re too kind. You mean organized crime with a liability shield made up of psychopaths. What else could you possibly call people who turn a blind eye to children’s deaths or a compromised life all in the name of money? And let’s not forget the untold numbers injured by the covid shots, which they’re moving mountains to keep hidden.

Linda's avatar

The big outrage right now is against vaccines, as it should be. But big pharma, along with the FDA and CDC has promoted (on TV and directly to doctors) drugs that are harmful, and greatly limited the use of drugs that are relatively safe and effective.

The FDA is partly funded by big pharma.

The CDC's purpose initially was to prevent the spread of infectious diseases, starting with malaria. They are now political, promoting "global health security".

lawrence greenberg's avatar

The NIH/FDA/CDC have long been little more than the marketing arm of Big Pharma.

Truth Seeker's avatar

YOU FORGOT MEDICAL DOCTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Truth Seeker's avatar

You are giving a no mention pass to the Medical Doctors who are the delivery crew. They have earned no get out of jail free cards.

Linda's avatar

I didn't mention the doctors in that comment, but that doesn't mean that I'm giving them a pass.

In the past, doctors were independent professionals. Now many are robots, employed by medical centers, hospitals, etc, to follow protocols. They don't think for themselves, and can be cruel in the way they follow protocols. And some just follow the money, like those who give hormones to minors to stop puberty, and those who do surgery on minors to supposedly turn them into the opposite sex (which is impossible).

Truth Seeker's avatar

Did not wish to over state the issue, have seen this over sight for so many years its worse than alarming. Thanks for that clarification for the benefit of all. Without compliant and complacent MD's we would not even be discussing this issue. I spotlight the renegades keeping a increasing list'who are at risk for speaking out.

Truth Seeker's avatar

That liability shield assumes there was not fraud, as fraud vitiates any such shield!

30 million dead, a much greater # disabled. The fake news echo chamber is silent.

If and when a useful treatment for stupid arrives many will have their world view shattered into 1000 pieces. They who will they be??

lawrence greenberg's avatar

I am unable to disagree with you.

Vanessa's avatar

I'm an RD, so I agree with your statement but would add people are finally understanding and accepting they have been lied to for many decades about foods....eggs, saturated fats, meats, carbohydrates... after Covid, I do not trust the medical community at all.

lawrence greenberg's avatar

Absolutely true, and for the same reasons that Big Pharma and its supporters lie: to increase profits, the health of the customers be damned.

Truth Seeker's avatar

The liver makes more than adequite cholesterol, so there is exactly no need for the "food" you mention. Degrees are indoctrination camps.

Overstanding is preferred to standing under. The lies are innumerable.

Truth Seeker's avatar

eating dead animals is what you seem to promote, as if its only a "health" issue

Trusting in the Medical Cartel for other than emergency care, surgical procedures, and some infections way the way forward decades ago for any health seeker.

Judie's avatar

I am still waiting for just one of these so called "vaccine experts" to provide irrefutable data that can prove any one of those statements...especially the one that can prove that any vaccine has actually saved a single life.

Randall Robinson's avatar

No "expert" has accepted Steve Kirsch's challenges for debate over the past 4 years. Just as nobody has sued RFK Jr. over any "misinformation" in his tomes.

Alfalfa's avatar

Random science guys accept these challenges whereby Stevie humiliates himself. Kirsch NEVER MAKES GOOD on his little promises. He refuses to even escrow funds in advance when his challenges are accepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30W2w02n360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFjsmhy-GHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqM40PR9mQg

Here's the full "debate," if you can tolerate it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFjsmhy-GHc

" Just as nobody has sued RFK Jr. over any 'misinformation' in his tomes."

You know who else hasn't sued anyone for defamation, libel or slander? Someone routinely badmouthed nearly as much as Dear Leader himself? TRIAL ATTORNEY Bobby.

Unless you're someone like Dear Leader, that keeps a stable of shopping mall lawyers to cheat people out of money and to maliciously litigate - Just initiating this kind of lawsuit's going to run into six figures.

Truth Seeker's avatar

that is partially true. Steve has used his great wealth to further the "debate" but is mired in the "belief" in virus

He did attempt to debate Dr. Andrew Kaufman, who exposes the entire "virus" fraud. Do re-read that sentence. You and others would do well to listen so hunt it down...

Truth Seeker's avatar

We were past that threshold decades ago. There are 30 million dead from the Covid Quax a much larger # disabled... Proving a negative is impossible.

One either believes that health comes from needles or they realize how patently ridiculous the notion. That was true 30 plus years ago.

Judie's avatar

Exactly my point! However, I would still love to see someone challenge the so called experts on this, but I have yet to see it. Too many people still believe their propaganda and the need to keep asking the question is relevant. Part of the problem is that too many of us have stopped questioning those who are calling the shots…pardon the pun.

Truth Seeker's avatar

There are over 25 prominent MD's who have broken rank. Keep records as the list grows daily. Forget the indoctrinated, they love kool aid.

Speak the truth, regardless of the numbers.

LouLou's avatar

This is definitely the Hand of God working. I was astonished by this news. By the way Bill Cassidy…where are these autism studies you refer to? Wouldn’t you think that they would be splashed everywhere for all to see how data in vaccine trials continues to prove their safety and zero links to autism? Did he ever bring them to a senate hearing? Nope. They just nebulously live somewhere. They don’t exist!!

Truth Seeker's avatar

Ultimately yes. While we are here we are responsible to seek, discover,

and to the extent possible speak the truth. Peer review is pay to play,

has been for decades. Worse.

Nnikk's avatar

Yes, 100% to all that with one caveat. The evil ones are putting up one helluva fight, pulling out all the stops on their same old tricks/game plans. Like cornered animals they will fight to the bitter end for their survival. The outcome of all this is not at all certain over the immediate next few years. Lot of stupid people refuse to catch on--your typical normies, aside from their corrupt false gods.

Recently saw a fairly intelligent old friend (who totally and angrily bought the whole Plandemic fear campaign all the way) chime in on FB responding to someone begging pardon for falling for some online BS about some celebrity's supposed (but falsely reported) death that, "Yeah, I don't trust any (thing) until it is confirmed through at least a couple of cycles by the MSM." I wasn't shocked by this (typical virtue signaling/echo-chamber participation) but the stark cluelessness exhibited was striking. That's what we are up against, and "they" count on this blind adherence/dependence upon the deliberate inculcation of that consensus world view.

Truth Seeker's avatar

They do exist, and are hardened like quick set concrete. Now about that intelligence, it certainly did not age well.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Those without any comprehension of health have been trotting out this Non Science

for decades. Due to Covidiocy, it no longer sticks. The evidence has for decades been unequivocal concerning the Vax fraud for any health seeker.

Consider how ridiculous it remains to believe that health comes from needles.

It really is that simple and alway has been.

AS you point out people should be irate!! Thank the Medical Cartel.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Cassidy was pounded into the sand, by Trump endorsed Letlow

Credit where is due despite the victory lap here in MAHA.

The EVIDENCE IS THAT ALL THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENTS DEFEATED

THEIR OPPONENTS. MAHA clearly remains clueless about collaboration.

"Trump endorsed Letlow even before she announced she would challenge Cassidy, writing on Truth Social in January: “I know Julia well, have seen her tested at the highest and most difficult level and she is a total winner. Should she decide to enter this race, Julia Letlow has my complete and total endorsement, run Julia, run."

Meanwhile RFK is either hamstrung or ? Re the "Hanta" fear fest. He is the head of the HHS and has the biggest bullhorn on earth. And he says nothing? There is no excuse whatsoever.

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

I thanked God for the defeat of Cassidy in the Louisiana primary. Now I thank all of the strong men and women behind the efforts to move MAHA forward by doing what needed to be done. Cassidy has been a thorn in the side of RFK since the beginning and his defeat is a definite win for us all. It is also a message to big Pharma that we are not going to allow the status quo to continue. Hallelujah!

Vivien C Buckley's avatar

I don’t want to do the thumbs up just yet. Pharma and friends have many tricks up their sleeve to maintain control.

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

I agree totally, but I’ll take the win. It sent a definite message. Big Pharma won’t just roll over, but neither will we.

Vanessa's avatar

Exactly, do not comply. I love how Ebola has re-emerged. The people didn't panic over monkey pox, or bird flu, or hantavirus, so bring out Ebola. 🙄

Truth Seeker's avatar

The fraud is the entire "virus" storyline. As you point out they tested every one of the aforementioned trying desperately to get something to stick.

Please understand that without "virus" storyline most of Medicine gets flushed. That day comes not soon enough.

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

You see that Bill Gates is funding the Ebola vaccine!!

Truth Seeker's avatar

Many opine BG is not in this realm.

In any case the genocide continue as it is clear

the end game.

Linda's avatar

I read an article, can't find it now, that says that new methods of developing drugs will make big pharma obsolete. I don't know if it's true, but it's an interesting idea.

Truth Seeker's avatar

True though the picture is much larger. MAHA is a splinter group of MAGA, a tiny fraction.

Based on the Tx seminar, they are lost in space. RFK did not look happy at that event.

Fred Kittelmann's avatar

It seems to me MAHA had an independent origin - basically those who were supporting RFK for president. RFK's presidential aspirations were at times for the Democratic nomination, and at other times as an independent. In either case he would have been running Against Trump - a very unMAGA thing to do. MAHA does seem much smaller than MAGA, but it isn't an offshoot. This is an alliance. The Republican party can't automatically count on MAHA. They will have to work for MAHA related policy if they want MAHA votes.

Linda's avatar

I agree with what you wrote about RFK Jr. But it made me think about the reason he was running for president. He had been trying, for a long time, to get his health agenda done, and he couldn't find anyone to let him do it. He must have thought that being president was the only way, but probably didn't want to deal with everything a president needs to do.

I don't know what he would have done as president besides his health agenda, but I'm sure that it wouldn't have made MAGA happy!

Truth Seeker's avatar

Accurate, mostly You are correct concering the origins, that was before the name! It is a tiny fraction. It has grown, however has not been successful at

collabotation. I wish it were an alliance.

The last statement is in reverse.

Judith's avatar

Big shifts happening. Soooooo very happy to watch Americans choose to awaken to truth.

Aerold Aaron Souder's avatar

Winning

Believing Skeptic's avatar

It's been so discouraging to me that for so many years, the American medical establishment has refused to even READ or critique any data at all on vaccines. And they've poured millions of dollars into brainwashing the public and especially the left, so that they will think they're the ones who believe "science is real", when in fact they hate and reject and block science! The fact that Republicans have blocked the truth as well, but are getting ousted for it, shows the differences in the two parties.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Turn your skepticism north. The Medical Cartel is dependent of this fraud, totally dependent. They are not the friends of Americans. They are delivery crew for Big P.

They are used to an infinite # of get out of jail free passes. The printer is out of biz.

Willard Hall's avatar

Thank God !!!

Brogan12's avatar

Cassidy was the consummate PHARMA shill and RINO! Thank GOD RFK saw the light with his former neo Marxist DEM party direction and formed an alliance with Trump! None of it happens had RFK not bolted, and Nov 5th 2024 went to the alternative choice of COUP-MALA and Tampon Timmy. Just IMAGINE how burdened we all would be right now had that occurred! MAGA-MAHA!

BAC60's avatar

So thankful for MAHA!!!!

Linda Blossom's avatar

Well done Tony et al

Angela's avatar

Yay! One of many who need to face the same thing! Rino's need to be gotten rid of so we can bring this country back to an actual democracy!

Truth Seeker's avatar

Constitutional Republic for accuracy

Michele's avatar

Trump should be ashamed of himself for treating Massie the way he has. Trump has done a 180 on MAHA moms.

Truth Seeker's avatar

DJT plays a long game, pay attention

Supplementer's avatar

This was merely Dear Leader's grudge for Cassidy having dared to vote against him 5 years ago.

Meanwhile, Makary, Hoagie, Prasad out - Make believe ACIP out. Means never in. More anti-establishment clowns will come and go, as you keep getting played

Glyphosate, never mind. Food dyes, waiting for promises. Farming something or other. Autism solved last September.

Fred Kittelmann's avatar

I fear your first sentence may be true, that MAHA can't take credit for this, that MAHA is weaker than they think.

And why has The MAHA Report not said a peep about Makary, Hoeg, and Prasad? The silence is deafening! I yearn for explanation/discussion of that. What's your take? That RFK isn't in charge? That MAHA is "getting played" - tossed an illusion of victory with RFK's appointment to HHS?

Supplementer's avatar

Of course. As are most in the various maga constituencies. Different plays for different groups

Dick Atlee's avatar

I'm thrilled that Cassidy will be out, and happy that MAHA had a big part in that. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I haven't heard that MAHA is doing anything to help the other main truth-teller in Congress besides Ron Johnson — Thomas Massie, who is being shredded by large-money interests. If this is the case, is it because Trump is piling on, or because Israel is involved?

Healthy Wellness's avatar

maha had no part in it. the fat orange bully baby holds a grudge.

Truth Seeker's avatar

and for that simple reason, whatever this splinter group is, it is a tiny tiny fraction of MAGA, that are populated by real Trump supporters. This group is riding the wake of the Trump wave at best.

aromagal's avatar

Ding dong the witch is dead ;-) No matter. I'm sure he'll find a lucrative 2nd career as a Pharma lobbyist!

TeeJae's avatar

Such great news! And hopefully this is a harbinger that Massie will win his primary, as well!

Fred Kittelmann's avatar

If the arguments being made here in the comments section are sound, Massie will lose. People are claiming the power lies with MAGA, not MAHA, and I suspect they are correct. :(