The most disturbing aspect of testing with dogs is that there are thousands of people who can torture dogs inside hell on earth without empathy or remorse. They live among us and choose this line of work and justify it as "saving lives", no different than the COVID vaccine supposedly saved lives. Who would want their child, for example, to be anywhere near someone who tortures animals for a living? Who would want such a person in any position of power over anyone else? Like sex offenders, we should all be notified where such a person lives so that we can monitor them or move away from them. If a treatment or drug requires massive numbers of animals to be tortured, then it calls into question why the treatment or drug exists at all.
I would add that we as consumers hold the 'power of the purse' to help put an end to animal testing by refusing to buy products that use animal testing. For all my personal care and household products, I make sure the label says "Not tested on animals" before purchasing.
Merely saving beagles won’t save humans. They will simply torture cats and rats instead. All government subsidies for the corrupt pharmaceutical corporations must be halted. The drug companies must be prohibited from mass market saturation advertising on the idiot box. There must be modifications of corporate law to allow lawsuits against corporations that deliberate peddle lies and scientific abominations. The leaders of these corporations who have foisted toxic waste poison like the fake COVID immunizations for the sake of mass murder must be brought to trial for TREASON for no civilization can defend itself with sick, crippled, dead, and unborn soldiers and civilians. As an alternative to hanging, I suggest that these subhuman monsters be kept in cages and used as substitutes for the beagles.
To understand how energy works in the universe, would end abusive experiments/research. This is basic 101 physics: what goes out returns. Which means the misery the animal experiences, fear, pain, etc., which are all frequencies, go out into the atmosphere, and come back to be experienced in kind. Want suffering? Continue negative behaviors. And perpetrated on animals, whose physical mechanics in NO way resemble the human structure, the 'research' is bogus. It's known. It's done for the money.
You said it, many of us have lived that truth for decades. Interestingly without the degenerative dis-ease associated with carnism... There are thousands of details.
There will be those who assert they "tried" it. That simply means they were nutritionally illiterate... or worse listened to "professionals" that persuaded them back to carnism.
All human meds and vaccines are normally tested on humans, after the animal testing. But the covid vaccines don't seem to have been tested much on animals or humans.
The 1st thing I wanted to do after reading reading about the 1,500 released dogs was adopt one of these critters. But then I found out that they are being distributed to Wisconsin animal shelters. But, I'm in Texas. It seems like a wider distribution strategy would be beneficial for all concerned parties.
In a side note, it's telling that Fauci's fingerprints are on this industrial level scam. And taxpayers get fleeced for billions on projects they know are going to be failures.
All animal testing and torture must end. It is absolutely savage. We are supposed to be animal guardians, not their sadistic overlords. They are innocents.
I witnessed a student who after performing an invasive procedure on a Beagle and euthanizing the Beagle ( dysthanasia to be correct in this case), throw the body on the floor and twirl the body around by the tail laughing and guffawing the whole time while dragging the body all over the room to show others. This guy is a veterinarian now in Michigan practicing small animal medicine on beloved pets. When reported to the school, nothing was done about it. I can just imagine what goes on in the clinic he works at when no one is watching.
You want to test on something, test on the worst prisoners; those that rape, kill for the fun of it. Test on pedophiles, those involved with child trafficking, those committing SRA on children. Test on the lab workers/employees forcing this torture on innocents as they have no conscience or empathy and I daresay no Soul. If you can put an animal through torture, you would do it to a child if you could get away with it. Plenty of test subjects in these categories.
The worst part is that 99%+ of the drugs being tested on animals will never make it to market or will be marketed for illnesses for which there is already safe and effective non pharmaceutical treatment. This immoral research is completely unnecessary for human health, although it is justified as being "worth it". It is a moral concession to the pharmaceutical industry, to assist them in making profits off of products that as harmful to human health as they are to animal life.
That this is being allowed shows a lot about the morality of the pharmaceutical industry and the government that allows them to run roughshod over ethics. It's a crime that needs to stop and only We the People can do it.
Perhaps "change can't happen overnight", but immoral procedures like injecting people with harmful substances and inhumanely using animals to develop medicines which are not applicable to humans CAN stop overnight, just as mandates and lockdowns were instantaneous.
The top feature of biomedical research is INCOMPETENCE. Now you are telling us these incompetent people and the incompetent FDA have magically determined that alternative testing methods are better than animal testing? While claiming animal testing itself was not good enough. Hello?
They’ll be doing it to people soon, if they aren’t already. Their torture, abuse and mental sickness shows a total disregard for humanity and any other living creature or plant.
If it does benefit people, then it’s necessary. Like with rats. They do it at Pitt. I did security rounds in that building. But if it doesn’t help us, then no. It needs to stop.
I agree. The research at Pitt is on one of the upper floors. You just can’t walk in to that floor, like you can in the Cathedral Of Learning (which I highly recommend visiting).
The most disturbing aspect of testing with dogs is that there are thousands of people who can torture dogs inside hell on earth without empathy or remorse. They live among us and choose this line of work and justify it as "saving lives", no different than the COVID vaccine supposedly saved lives. Who would want their child, for example, to be anywhere near someone who tortures animals for a living? Who would want such a person in any position of power over anyone else? Like sex offenders, we should all be notified where such a person lives so that we can monitor them or move away from them. If a treatment or drug requires massive numbers of animals to be tortured, then it calls into question why the treatment or drug exists at all.
I would add that we as consumers hold the 'power of the purse' to help put an end to animal testing by refusing to buy products that use animal testing. For all my personal care and household products, I make sure the label says "Not tested on animals" before purchasing.
Same.
Merely saving beagles won’t save humans. They will simply torture cats and rats instead. All government subsidies for the corrupt pharmaceutical corporations must be halted. The drug companies must be prohibited from mass market saturation advertising on the idiot box. There must be modifications of corporate law to allow lawsuits against corporations that deliberate peddle lies and scientific abominations. The leaders of these corporations who have foisted toxic waste poison like the fake COVID immunizations for the sake of mass murder must be brought to trial for TREASON for no civilization can defend itself with sick, crippled, dead, and unborn soldiers and civilians. As an alternative to hanging, I suggest that these subhuman monsters be kept in cages and used as substitutes for the beagles.
You last line: BRAVO!
To understand how energy works in the universe, would end abusive experiments/research. This is basic 101 physics: what goes out returns. Which means the misery the animal experiences, fear, pain, etc., which are all frequencies, go out into the atmosphere, and come back to be experienced in kind. Want suffering? Continue negative behaviors. And perpetrated on animals, whose physical mechanics in NO way resemble the human structure, the 'research' is bogus. It's known. It's done for the money.
Dr. Science/Dr. Fauci is to blame for most of this. They should use him for testing.
Vegans have been aware of this &
fighting for decades to stop this. Until we stop treating all animals as ‘less than’, things like this will never stop.
You said it, many of us have lived that truth for decades. Interestingly without the degenerative dis-ease associated with carnism... There are thousands of details.
There will be those who assert they "tried" it. That simply means they were nutritionally illiterate... or worse listened to "professionals" that persuaded them back to carnism.
Well said 👍🏻
All human meds and vaccines should be tested on humans, either those who voluntarily sign up for trials or those who sell their bodies for research.
All human meds and vaccines are normally tested on humans, after the animal testing. But the covid vaccines don't seem to have been tested much on animals or humans.
Pray for all animals please 🙏
The 1st thing I wanted to do after reading reading about the 1,500 released dogs was adopt one of these critters. But then I found out that they are being distributed to Wisconsin animal shelters. But, I'm in Texas. It seems like a wider distribution strategy would be beneficial for all concerned parties.
In a side note, it's telling that Fauci's fingerprints are on this industrial level scam. And taxpayers get fleeced for billions on projects they know are going to be failures.
My dad used to raise beagles.
With AI they shouldn’t need to use animals for research. This horrible protocol is an outrage!! They should put an end to this immediately!!
With AI we'll all be dead so no need for testing.
All animal testing and torture must end. It is absolutely savage. We are supposed to be animal guardians, not their sadistic overlords. They are innocents.
I witnessed a student who after performing an invasive procedure on a Beagle and euthanizing the Beagle ( dysthanasia to be correct in this case), throw the body on the floor and twirl the body around by the tail laughing and guffawing the whole time while dragging the body all over the room to show others. This guy is a veterinarian now in Michigan practicing small animal medicine on beloved pets. When reported to the school, nothing was done about it. I can just imagine what goes on in the clinic he works at when no one is watching.
You want to test on something, test on the worst prisoners; those that rape, kill for the fun of it. Test on pedophiles, those involved with child trafficking, those committing SRA on children. Test on the lab workers/employees forcing this torture on innocents as they have no conscience or empathy and I daresay no Soul. If you can put an animal through torture, you would do it to a child if you could get away with it. Plenty of test subjects in these categories.
Clinical psychologists recognize that children who abuse animals are at high risk for committing homicide as adults.
absolutely.
Most serial killers are known to have started by abusing animals.
Indeed. May it be done to them what they have done to the innocents.
The worst part is that 99%+ of the drugs being tested on animals will never make it to market or will be marketed for illnesses for which there is already safe and effective non pharmaceutical treatment. This immoral research is completely unnecessary for human health, although it is justified as being "worth it". It is a moral concession to the pharmaceutical industry, to assist them in making profits off of products that as harmful to human health as they are to animal life.
That this is being allowed shows a lot about the morality of the pharmaceutical industry and the government that allows them to run roughshod over ethics. It's a crime that needs to stop and only We the People can do it.
The crimes people commit that is driven by greed should be swiftly and expeditiously sentenced to w capital punishment.
Perhaps "change can't happen overnight", but immoral procedures like injecting people with harmful substances and inhumanely using animals to develop medicines which are not applicable to humans CAN stop overnight, just as mandates and lockdowns were instantaneous.
Could stop overnight, but what to do about clueless people.
If someone figured out how to fix stupid, that would be a great gift to humanity.
The top feature of biomedical research is INCOMPETENCE. Now you are telling us these incompetent people and the incompetent FDA have magically determined that alternative testing methods are better than animal testing? While claiming animal testing itself was not good enough. Hello?
They’ll be doing it to people soon, if they aren’t already. Their torture, abuse and mental sickness shows a total disregard for humanity and any other living creature or plant.
No question whatsoever that brutality to animals is a sure sign of a cult-ure that
has strayed directly into insanity. It has been known for many decades that there are better
ways to train Medical students. Safety testing using animal models requires a populace who
is spiritually bereft.
Rats and monkeys are also used in the "testing" Insanity. It is true that RFK is the head of HHS,
it is even more notable that DJT is at the helm, a fact MAHA is remiss in acknowleging.
Now do "food" animals and organic farms that grow fruits and vegatables.
If it does benefit people, then it’s necessary. Like with rats. They do it at Pitt. I did security rounds in that building. But if it doesn’t help us, then no. It needs to stop.
Free the rats too. They are kind companions and make excellent pets, Gentle in demeanor as well.
I agree. The research at Pitt is on one of the upper floors. You just can’t walk in to that floor, like you can in the Cathedral Of Learning (which I highly recommend visiting).
U mean University of Pittsburgh? Mice and Rats fine. NO BEAGLES and NO monkeys.
What a bunch of freaking monsters to torture poor defenseless Beagles.
You are making the case that the lives of mice and rats have less value...
If that’s what it takes to survive, then so be it.
Mice and rats should not be tortured either. I have had both as pets and they are very intelligent along with being kind and gentle.
Really...They don't bite? A friend's daughter had a rat as a pet. The rat didn't live too long.
Mine do not. It depends how they are treated. My rats lived for 5 years.
Oh, wow. You must have treated them really well.
They were much loved and spoiled!