The only positive here is that diet is being considered. With GLP1s alone, we will see more harm than good. Back in 2023, I wrote how the DASH diet was just as effective as GLP1s — while being safer and cheaper as well. Hopefully the DASH diet will be tried extensively before these drugs are implemented: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-struggle-in-health-care
But overall agree: if this is just a way to get people, then its horrible. Ironically, GLP1s shouldn't be pushed on seniors, but if done, then you're right — this will harm seniors :(
These GLP drugs are NOT good! I have diabetes and my dr prescribed them to me. In 4 months my Pancrease no longer makes enzymes to absorb vitamins from food. DO NOT TAKE IT! For your health. The Pig Enzymes I have to take cost me 4k a month now. Please, I BEG you - DO NOT DO IT! 💯
This story does not medically check out. GLP-1 users have DECREASED risk of short-term pancreas inflammation. There are zero reported cases of pancreatic failure (what you're describing here).
Oh dear. Seems like Dr. Oz is up to his old tricks involving drugs. The only side effect of GLP-1 that I saw mentioned in the article involved muscle density, while I've read that it has many more side-effects, including stomach paralysis and kidney damage. If you're going to demand strict cost-benefit analyses of vaccines, maybe do the same here? And while we're at it, can we be brutally honest about human nature? This drug addresses almost the entire panoply of mortal sins (gluttony, greed, sloth, envy, maybe even lust) yet is being analyzed as if it were to be used and prescribed by robots. Medicare may have strict limits on its use but experience tells us that within 24 hours both users and prescribers will have figured out how to game these rules. It will filter from Medicare to Medicaid and finally become a mandated insurance benefit; the entire country will be like the morons in Hollywood making their thin selves thinner; manufacturers will find new uses for it; half our GNP will be GLP (which would be a good slogan for the opposition); and people who are fat because of Pepsi and Twinkies and the screens they stare at will still be living on Pepsi and Twinkies and staring at screens. Oh joy! Novo Nordisk is probably already working on drugs to increase muscle mass and improve our intelligence so we don't have to lift a finger to make our own lives worth living. Why is this seen as a leap forward into anything good?
Its JUST surreal how people never learn. The amount of adverse events and consequences we will be seeing over the coming years with such a PUSH on these drugs will be over the top!
Seemingly, but only because Orange stands to cash in bigly somehow. I'm sure there was heavy trading in Lilly and NovoNordisk derivatives in the hours preceding this announcent too.
Obesity is a a condition, one of choices and consequences. The disease is that we think obesity should be fixed with pharmaceutical interventions instead of diet and habit changes.
Again, MAHA is doing such great things on the farming and food side for the most part. Why are you aligned with the Republicans and now weight loss drugs? Please!
Wouldnt a quick pill to lose weight just cause people to think they can eat even more junk? Which would cause all kinds of additional problems? Seems crazy. I dont want to pay for people to eat more. Insane.
Junk food, made to be addictive, with chemical additives, but no nutrition, is where the cigarette companies moved after they lost the regulatory war on cigarettes.
The smokers mostly died off over time.
Would it be the same with the elimination of effective subsidies for junk food, outlawing advertising for it, and heavy taxation?
There needs to be a more long-term, nuanced and cost-effective approach to America's tragic health care crisis. And the mind-body connection needs to be studied and utilized more effectively. Here is one key example: there are more than 400 peer-reviewed journal published studies on the effectiveness of Transcendental Meditation in reducing not only stress, but a wide range of heart and health issues. The benefits begin quickly, and the technique is easy to learn and practice. A VA sponsored long-term study in the military produced extraordinary results. The pharma control of America's health care needs to be reduced... period.
That didn't happen. The largest and most-cited VA-related TM study, conducted at San Diego VA and published in 2018, randomized 203 PTSD patients to one of three treatment conditions - one of which was TM. It wasn't "long term," but found that a few weeks of TM was statistically non-inferior to Prolonged Exposer therapy on the primary outcome measure.
'Making things up'??? It was three months, not 'a few weeks', and that is long term compared to many of the research studies that are the basis of policy decisions. Look at some of the Covid vaccine 'efficacy studies'... which were extremely short, and conducted on mice rather than people. As a veteran who has benefited greatly from TM practice (a life saver), I have known dozens of other vets who learned TM and could sleep for the first time in years, and then live turned around for them...
PTSD and other stress-related issues cause 20 vet suicides per day in America, and of the studies I have seen and the experiences of vets who have gone through hell and come back, TM is far better than the talk therapy and max drugs, or the prolonged exposure which is extraordinarily traumatic, and vets do not stick with it. Facts matter... and vets deserve cost-effective options which work. TM is the best.
This does not address the cost of eating whole foods! Seniors are eating processed foods because that's all they can afford. This is a bandaid for poor eating habits that some are trapped into
The government needs to ban hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils and in products, monosodium glutamate, aspartame, and products containing high-fructose corn syrup. That will help a lot of people lose weight.
Rather than use a drug for obesity, why don't we clean up the food supply and remove microplastic residue from the water? I fear an epidemic of muscle loss and possible osteopenia in the Medicare population from this class of drugs.
For anyone interested, info regarding class action lawsuits involving toxic fragrance in public spaces
Cole & Van Law Firm is pursuing class action lawsuits against various types of organizations including businesses, medical facilities, hotels, and employers etc, on behalf of individuals who have experienced respiratory issues from scented products such as air fresheners in public spaces.
These cases will focus on situations where scented products contributed to breathing problems or respiratory conditions. The goal of this type of litigation is to seek accountability for affected individuals while encouraging safer environmental and workplace standards.
They just filed the first lawsuit against the Marriott. (many places such as airports and hotels are infusing toxic fragrance through HVAC systems)
Another way to kill off seniors and enrich pharma. Lord have mercy. WEFers are rejoicing.
The only positive here is that diet is being considered. With GLP1s alone, we will see more harm than good. Back in 2023, I wrote how the DASH diet was just as effective as GLP1s — while being safer and cheaper as well. Hopefully the DASH diet will be tried extensively before these drugs are implemented: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-struggle-in-health-care
But overall agree: if this is just a way to get people, then its horrible. Ironically, GLP1s shouldn't be pushed on seniors, but if done, then you're right — this will harm seniors :(
These GLP drugs are NOT good! I have diabetes and my dr prescribed them to me. In 4 months my Pancrease no longer makes enzymes to absorb vitamins from food. DO NOT TAKE IT! For your health. The Pig Enzymes I have to take cost me 4k a month now. Please, I BEG you - DO NOT DO IT! 💯
This story does not medically check out. GLP-1 users have DECREASED risk of short-term pancreas inflammation. There are zero reported cases of pancreatic failure (what you're describing here).
This didn't happen. Or you're a unicorn.
Oh dear. Seems like Dr. Oz is up to his old tricks involving drugs. The only side effect of GLP-1 that I saw mentioned in the article involved muscle density, while I've read that it has many more side-effects, including stomach paralysis and kidney damage. If you're going to demand strict cost-benefit analyses of vaccines, maybe do the same here? And while we're at it, can we be brutally honest about human nature? This drug addresses almost the entire panoply of mortal sins (gluttony, greed, sloth, envy, maybe even lust) yet is being analyzed as if it were to be used and prescribed by robots. Medicare may have strict limits on its use but experience tells us that within 24 hours both users and prescribers will have figured out how to game these rules. It will filter from Medicare to Medicaid and finally become a mandated insurance benefit; the entire country will be like the morons in Hollywood making their thin selves thinner; manufacturers will find new uses for it; half our GNP will be GLP (which would be a good slogan for the opposition); and people who are fat because of Pepsi and Twinkies and the screens they stare at will still be living on Pepsi and Twinkies and staring at screens. Oh joy! Novo Nordisk is probably already working on drugs to increase muscle mass and improve our intelligence so we don't have to lift a finger to make our own lives worth living. Why is this seen as a leap forward into anything good?
My thoughts exactly.
MAYBE STOP SCREWING AROUND W OUR FOOD!!!
Its JUST surreal how people never learn. The amount of adverse events and consequences we will be seeing over the coming years with such a PUSH on these drugs will be over the top!
Holy crap, is this administration finally doing something GOOD? Besides the prior-authorization aspect of course.
Seemingly, but only because Orange stands to cash in bigly somehow. I'm sure there was heavy trading in Lilly and NovoNordisk derivatives in the hours preceding this announcent too.
I would not be surprised by politicians both left and right insider trading on this information
Obesity is a a condition, one of choices and consequences. The disease is that we think obesity should be fixed with pharmaceutical interventions instead of diet and habit changes.
Like diabetes. Thinking pharmaceutical interventions might ever be necessary is madness.
This is not good news. The government-led low-fat craze led to this problem, and now the government is going to fix it with a pill?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Again, MAHA is doing such great things on the farming and food side for the most part. Why are you aligned with the Republicans and now weight loss drugs? Please!
The better question is why you buy into magaworld's "maha" posturing and sloganeering.
I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. My question is, why is MAHA so aligned and supportive of the Trump and Republican agenda writ large?
Oh please with the partisanship
Wouldnt a quick pill to lose weight just cause people to think they can eat even more junk? Which would cause all kinds of additional problems? Seems crazy. I dont want to pay for people to eat more. Insane.
Nope, it's more of an appetite regulator than directly causing weight loss. People eat less. Not insane.
Junk food, made to be addictive, with chemical additives, but no nutrition, is where the cigarette companies moved after they lost the regulatory war on cigarettes.
The smokers mostly died off over time.
Would it be the same with the elimination of effective subsidies for junk food, outlawing advertising for it, and heavy taxation?
The leveraged buyout of RJRNabisco by KKR did nothing to improve food quality.
There needs to be a more long-term, nuanced and cost-effective approach to America's tragic health care crisis. And the mind-body connection needs to be studied and utilized more effectively. Here is one key example: there are more than 400 peer-reviewed journal published studies on the effectiveness of Transcendental Meditation in reducing not only stress, but a wide range of heart and health issues. The benefits begin quickly, and the technique is easy to learn and practice. A VA sponsored long-term study in the military produced extraordinary results. The pharma control of America's health care needs to be reduced... period.
That didn't happen. The largest and most-cited VA-related TM study, conducted at San Diego VA and published in 2018, randomized 203 PTSD patients to one of three treatment conditions - one of which was TM. It wasn't "long term," but found that a few weeks of TM was statistically non-inferior to Prolonged Exposer therapy on the primary outcome measure.
Works for you - great. But stop making things up.
'Making things up'??? It was three months, not 'a few weeks', and that is long term compared to many of the research studies that are the basis of policy decisions. Look at some of the Covid vaccine 'efficacy studies'... which were extremely short, and conducted on mice rather than people. As a veteran who has benefited greatly from TM practice (a life saver), I have known dozens of other vets who learned TM and could sleep for the first time in years, and then live turned around for them...
PTSD and other stress-related issues cause 20 vet suicides per day in America, and of the studies I have seen and the experiences of vets who have gone through hell and come back, TM is far better than the talk therapy and max drugs, or the prolonged exposure which is extraordinarily traumatic, and vets do not stick with it. Facts matter... and vets deserve cost-effective options which work. TM is the best.
This does not address the cost of eating whole foods! Seniors are eating processed foods because that's all they can afford. This is a bandaid for poor eating habits that some are trapped into
The government needs to ban hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils and in products, monosodium glutamate, aspartame, and products containing high-fructose corn syrup. That will help a lot of people lose weight.
Rather than use a drug for obesity, why don't we clean up the food supply and remove microplastic residue from the water? I fear an epidemic of muscle loss and possible osteopenia in the Medicare population from this class of drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vLJyEYq3m4
Thanks. I was aware of that. It doesn't take away the risk of GLP1s in the elderly population.
Agreed. Just wanted to be sure you saw this excellent panel with newly developed action plan.
For anyone interested, info regarding class action lawsuits involving toxic fragrance in public spaces
Cole & Van Law Firm is pursuing class action lawsuits against various types of organizations including businesses, medical facilities, hotels, and employers etc, on behalf of individuals who have experienced respiratory issues from scented products such as air fresheners in public spaces.
These cases will focus on situations where scented products contributed to breathing problems or respiratory conditions. The goal of this type of litigation is to seek accountability for affected individuals while encouraging safer environmental and workplace standards.
They just filed the first lawsuit against the Marriott. (many places such as airports and hotels are infusing toxic fragrance through HVAC systems)
about the lawsuit
https://colevannote.com/fragrance/
plaintiff request form
https://colevannote.com/fragrance-information-request-form/