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Barbara Charis's avatar

It would be interesting to know how many readers the NYT has lost, because it has no credibility. How many intelligent people who are readers, would subscribe to its faux journalism? Many are not going to the MSM for information anymore, because they are aware that the advertisers control the news that they receive.

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TeeJae's avatar

I have a few very educated (ie, Masters degrees or more) in-laws who STILL (even after the past few years) consider the NYT as gospel. It's mind-boggling.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

What does the word ‘educated’ even mean any more? It means ‘indoctrinated’

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TeeJae's avatar

Agreed. I should've put the word in quotes. There's a big difference between "educated" and intelligent.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

When I was a teenager, my father told me, "Don't believe everything you read, just because it is printed in a book.' I learned how right he was...Many books are written by people whose information barely has any validity at all.

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TeeJae's avatar

I would add newspapers, magazines and TV news, as well.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Totally, just because it is in print...does not mean its something valid. One has to question everything.

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truth seeker's avatar

Knowledge, Wisdom, Discernment has not been improved upon...

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Jane Tapia's avatar

My mother gave me the best advice when I was young, very young(20’s):

ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS

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Wolfgang Exel Watson's avatar

One of my most favorite proverbs that I encountered in my early studies of Eastern philosophy was:

"He who asks a question - may be a fool for five minutes. He, who doesn't ask will be a fool for the rest of his life."

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Marice Nelson's avatar

I have an old friend who has turned out to be a defender of every orthodoxy. And I can’t seem to get over my disappointment with that

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TeeJae's avatar

You're not alone. So many of us have (or had) people like that in our lives. It's both disappointing and sad.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Telling ya, it's entirely due to the Master's degrees.

Indoctrinated...

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Corwin Slack's avatar

Rejecting the NYT would be an act of self-denial. It would shatter their elite delusions.

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Wolfgang Exel Watson's avatar

"Gospel" is the keyword here.

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truth seeker's avatar

Credibility even among normies has never been less.

Today exposer on the criminal that Zelenski has always been is the latest widespread example. Character assessment skills are rarer than unicorns among liberals.

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Irene Jacobi Kummer's avatar

Does asshole Trump have any credibility? Biggest liar in chief .

P T Barnum was right. There’s a sucker born every minute. Quiet piggy

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Marc's avatar

Found a NYT intern

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Jay's avatar

The problem is that the problem isn't painfully obvious to the ones who are still drinking the kool-aid

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Brain damage...from the vaxxes, alcohol, drugs and no nutrient in processed foods have robbed people of the ability to think! I have a brother who is in that category.. He received vaccines, when he entered service, which caused a 109 degree temperature; and he nearly died. It affected his mind. He was never the same, after this occurred. He has no censorship of the things he says...and it was totally embarrassing to be around him. He thinks vaccines are "Safe & Affective" and Biden was the greatest president ever.

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Shelly's avatar

Agreed Barbara… I was slow to see all of this… but once I did, I wrote on my canceled subscription “I’m out” due to the Covid lies.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Olivia Nuzzi is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction minus the actual one night stand. I wrote about her here https://pollysnewsletter.substack.com/p/the-world-from-my-walker-the-breast

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truth seeker's avatar

The fake news echo chamber is as addicting as alcohol. It is true that the best

educated people are the easiest to hood wink. They also refuse to admit

false beliefs. That implies woeful spiritual corruption...

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Jeff Schreiber's avatar

What is arrogance but the inability to become humble, to admit your frailty and flaws and never admit you are carrying and spreading lies and misinformation. After carefully examining the human condition for 50+ years, it’s clear to me we live in the midst of an empathy famine. It’s always the source of the narcissistic behavior that allows us to slowly poison our bodies and our minds.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Weak ego and need to be accepted socially overriding reason and honesty. Where did we see this before? Oh wait! 2020-2021.

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Richard C. Cook's avatar

Please allow me to point out that after the Money Power passed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 assuring the future enslavement of all Americans to its greed and ambition (including massive profits from World War I), they made a list of all American newspapers they wished to buy into for purposes of propaganda and control. At the very TOP of the list was the New York Times. Nothing has changed over the last century-plus. The New York Times has continued its role as the chief mind-control organ of the financial elite, including BIG PHARMA of course. So keep up the good work, MAHA, in confronting this great evil.

Also please see our latest Three Sages contribution to understanding.

https://montanarcc.substack.com/p/bo-yin-ra-commentary-on-metaphysical

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truth seeker's avatar

Yes Richard however it is not MAHA except as a small part of Team Trump.

Wrap heads aroung that fact. 8 wars not have peace. Outing the grifting that the Dems have to the tune of Billions. RFK is doing his part, educating clueless Americans that

mercury is a neurotoxin, WOW that was widely known 50 years ago.

Removing food dyes, WOW some of us figured that out decades earlier.

Outing Big P and the Chemical goons, ditto.

Credit where its due!!

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Jacquie Vasicek's avatar

I wish I could read the article but I refuse to contribute money to that rag. Can anyone copy/paste it here?

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Jacquie Vasicek's avatar

Thank you ☺️

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Guy Montag, E-451's avatar

just click on the link. It's not pay walled yet.

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Michele Linehan's avatar

Of course not. That would defeat their purpose in publishing it. I don't read that rag, or any MSM, sounds like they need to be boycotted.

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Jacquie Vasicek's avatar

I tried - it blocked me.

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Diane Perenich's avatar

The NYT is not going to stop with their propaganda. One reason why the fired Bari Weiss, who said on Bill Mahrer, that the COVID pandemic "will go down as the crime of the century." However, the NYT are not the only ones, Washington Post, The Week, etc.; even sometimes- The Atlantic. I also know and love some very smart people who have drank the propaganda poison. Doctors who (some) are friends, incessantly lectured me about the COVID/Flu shots. I think the truth is hard for some people to grasp. I must say that at times I struggle with all media in their "truth telling/fact finding" reports. The media machines have done a great job of confusing and misleading the public.

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truth seeker's avatar

So the case you are making is to not read the fake news. Bravo!

Those Doctors are not friends, they are genocidal fools. They deserve no pardons.

Struggle not. Certainty replaces false beliefs.

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STEPHEN j.PADUANO's avatar

This is an absolutely sensational article. It exposes and clearly describes one of the many facets of modern ‘censorship, "Propaganda", The New York Times, once a pillar of journalism and honest reporting, has now become a propaganda machine kept alive only by life support.

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Laura Mueller's avatar

The distinction between reality and emotion-driven unreality was lost on most people I know during the covid psyop, evidenced by the numbers who protest "No Kings" evidence-free. Too bad so many once sensible and sensitive Americans are giving their health and life to support such propaganda machinery.

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STEPHEN j.PADUANO's avatar

Agree see the Milgram Experiment,, but let's not give up. I feel momentum is moving to our cause

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Laura Mueller's avatar

I agree about the momentum moving us forward. I still grieve the loss of rationality, civil discussion, and friendly banter at family gatherings.

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AJF's avatar

As do I Laura. Many of those around me who consider themselves highly intelligent have very little factual information. They blindly believe what NPR tells them, or what they read in the NY times. I wouldn't even know where to begin in any discussion with them. They are highly charged emotionally.

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Laura Mueller's avatar

That high emotional charge from media indoctrination is their Higher Self trying to energetically break out from behind the induced fear, shame, and guilt--the lowest energy emotions (only apathy is lower).

The guilt-washing was a strategy gamed out ahead in table-top exercises. Fauci openly advocated using fear to scare people into compliance with NPIs & shots. Media induced audiences to shame others into compliance for the "grandparents," total lies some still see as true.

The remedy I use most effectively that helps people back into access to their rational thoughts beyond these low-emotion states is:

1) Listen empathically as they express their feelings in the language repetitively induced 24/7 in the media drive of the psyop. Essential as the "caring deprogrammer" is to keep calm, still, grounded, with no nonverbal or verbal reactions to this barrage.

2) Next I reflect the emotion, saying, "When I heard you say [repeat a phrase they used], I felt [the emotion of fear, upset, sadness, guilt, or shame]. Is that what you felt when you said that?

3) Usually they deny feelings, often adding invectives, accusations or blame.

4) "I wonder, what is holding onto this [____ whatever they said] doing for you?"

5) They usually say something that gets to, "I feel strongly that _____" [revealing a deep value].

6) "I hear your deep concern for people having [____ a common good] in our country." I agree. What do you see as some ways to achieve it now?"

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truth seeker's avatar

Yes Laura and so what? Certainty and truth obliterates stupidity.

Pandering to false beliefs is a dog chasing its tail.

Loyalty is a great quality however if there is no limit

continue to be a door mat. It really is that simple.

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truth seeker's avatar

If you family is stupid, outplay them with certainty.

You have no other options.

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truth seeker's avatar

It is not remotely a "give up" time. It is a time for celebration.

Accurately assessing requires just that. Letting the fake news determing ones beliefs is (quite frankly) for the stupid. Milgram showed conformity.

Those who are sovereign would not have complied.

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truth seeker's avatar

You are focused on the wrong things. Those who know the truth far outnumber the goons. If the people you associate with do not know this, wrong people.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

Yes, Times readership has taken a nose dive and those that continue to subscribe-it’s part of their identity

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Lori's avatar

It is only worthwhile to use as pee pee pads for one's puppy.

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truth seeker's avatar

The once part is the issue. How far back and how many get out of jail passes are we willing to print?? Howz about letting the fake news experience the final flush??

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Tardigrade's avatar

The Times article says "She described riding with him around Los Angeles in his stinky mess of a van, as he drove recklessly on the road and yelled at his dogs." I remember reading that story, and while I remember that the van was a mess, I came away with the impression that he was affectionate with his dogs. The times make it sound like he was abusing them.

The article also says "And when his campaign finally combusted in August 2024..." This also implies that his campaign failed due to deficiencies on the candidates part. Well, I was planning to vote for RFK so I was following the campaign. He and other candidates were torpedoed by the Democratic Party, which subverted the whole primary process, making it impossible for anyone but Biden to get the nomination.

So, true to form, the Times is biased. Not worth paying to read.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Exactly. Let’s stop the endless analyses of NYT articles, and simply ignore them.

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truth seeker's avatar

Have been maintaining that for many years. MAHA thinks it intelligent to assess every move they make. That is low level reasoning...

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truth seeker's avatar

Not worth "reading" whether its paid or free.

Stop allowing the fake news to dictate the narrative? Yeah

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Tardigrade's avatar

In this case, I was interested in seeing if the MAHA Report accurately represented the Times article in their critique.

Trust but verify.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

NYT political mouthpiece for the CIA, Big Medicine and the Deranged left.

Has nothing to report about reality, but rather keep pushing narratives that benefit their benefactors. Character assassination is their expertise and not honest reporting. Over and over they go down the wrong road into the swamp!

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truth seeker's avatar

Indeed, so ?? Pay them exactly no heed.

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Lynne Jaffe's avatar

I read this earlier on FB. How to get this in front of all the people living under delusions that the NYT (and all others) is a trustworthy news org. When I saw the piece on Facebook, I could not bring myself to Share it, because the picture at first appeared to me promote the NYT headline, rather than exposing it up front.

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truth seeker's avatar

FB is the Zuck inspired Data collection crime scene, Divest. Immediately

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llaw555's avatar

Please say it’s so!!! I’d love to see this RAG fall!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

It’ll only fail if their customer base disappears. Wouldn’t it be neat if everyone unsubscribed and ignored them? I admit to being tired of reading endless analyses of shitty NYT articles by SS authors. The NYT sucks. Who cares?

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Neural Foundry's avatar

The breakdown of the five-step machinery is brilliant. When you lay it out like that, its impsosible not to see how the same formula has been used over and over. The part about dramatizing instead of proving realy exposes the whole operation. Its wild that they thought this would work when so many poeple are already skeptical of them.

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Brenda Ping's avatar

Just found new complaints about RFK jr. and Trump bring stopped by Chief of Staff and former Pfizer and Mercury LLC employee Susie Wiles. Is she the one stopping the banning of mRNA products (shots, spray, food, livestock, etc)???

https://rumble.com/v71obx0-trumps-chief-of-staff-susie-wiles-is-destroying-the-maha-movement-and-rfk-j.html?e9s=src_v1_eh_cs

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TeeJae's avatar

I read the article (hat tip to Tardigrade for providing a non-paywalled link), and despite the author/narrator trying to paint Nuzzi in a good light, she comes off as deranged. All throughout, I couldn't stop thinking that her claims about her alleged "affair" with Bobby were all in her head. I mean, she did admit her mother had a “borderline personality gaze”, so perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. When does Bobby's defamation suit start?

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Marice Nelson's avatar

To be a decent reporter, the thing foremost in your mind must be the story, not yourself. I doubt if that is ever the case with this writer

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llaw555's avatar

Please say it’s so!!! I’d love to see that RAG fall!

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Sonja Wernke's avatar

You sound like a Big Pharma Shrill, bought and paid for.

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Maurine Meleck's avatar

Great post. Thanks. However, unless you post the actual article as a gift, I cannot open and read it. Thanks. MM

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