I braced when I saw Premarin. The production of Premarin, which the name comes from its origins - Pregnant Mare Urine is a grossly inhuman industry. The procurement of the estrogen needed to make Premarin comes from farms in China now because it’s been outlawed in America and in Canada because of the inhumanity. It requires, typically a draft mare, to become pregnant. She stands her entire pregnancy in a straight stall with hoses connected to her to collect the urine. Often they keep the mares dehydrated so the urine is even more potent. The mare then has her foal, they’re separated and the baby goes to a kill auction and the mare gets impregnated again and goes back on what we call the pee line. It is a disgusting practice. The same pharma company and I forget who it is who has the patent on Premarin, also has a patent on the synthetic, but doesn’t seem to use that as far as I know only gets the urine from China. We must be better. I have been involved in the gentling of the foals that are saved from the kill auctions. It is a sad story.
Well that’s horrible. How can we stop medical experiments on animals but do this to them? It’s like the blue shelled crab situation…only a ghoul would think of such things. I don’t know…one step forward, then a step back again…Here is the drug info. Cancer risk is all over their advertisement. The bottom of the webpage says 2024, so maybe it’s an outdated page.
Dr. Christiane Northrup (double board certified OB/GYN) has also spoken out against premarin, as studies have shown it causes arthritis, blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, Alzheimer's, and ovarian, uterine and breast cancers. Instead, she recommends much safer individualized bioidentical hormone therapies.
Disappointed. Why medicalize a natural process? If estrogen replacement is safe, why are women treated for breast cancer prescribed Tamoxifen or other estrogen suppressants to stop production of the remaining estrogen produced naturally? Tamoxifen can cause dementia, too. Looks like more creating patients for life.
I never had one menopausal problem, because It took me years, but I learned how to eat! People think, because they put food in their mouth, and swallow it... they know how to eat! If they don't know about the right natural nutrition, they are creating illness with every bite.
Exactly. This disgusting. It’s entirely unnecessary. Education, WHOLE CLEAN FOOD, herbs… that’s all the average woman needs. All they are doing is putting more money into big pharmas pockets at the cost of misrepresenting what’s natural and normal. More toxic drugs. Good work, MAHA.
The day they TRULY clean up the air, water, soil, is the day we can say the “government “ has the public’s best health practices in mind. Until then, know they’re just trying to make another sale at the cost of your quality of life and call it progress. Don’t be fooled.
Same thing halpened with Celebrex Government supports this ‘new much needed’ drug to offset their (medical mafia’s) losses on the schmovid-10+9…. When big pharma gets caught not able to make billions they push out more poison for a ‘new treatment’ Once again no nutrition advice from anyone Good thing too they’d prob just suggest eating more seed oil & crickets! Women’s bodies are not broken needing ‘fixing’ leave us alone ! All your tests cause harm Lawsuits reigned supreme after Celebrex and everyone says ‘Oh I still trust them!’ Amazing.
Again, this menopause, Support effort is supportive of the pharmaceutical companies. Premarin is mentioned but bioidentical hormones, and the research behind them was not mentioned. Is there a reason for that? It is good that the black box warnings are removed.
I’m curious why they think the #1 thing to make women more healthy is a drug. Menopause is a natural process—we literally all go through it. I’ve felt this pressure from my friend —the “you should be taking hormone replacement therapy”. But , why? I actually prefer being warm to being cold, which I was all while I had my heavy period. I’m fortunate that I’m not destroyed by it, but what did ladies do before drugs? Were the vast majority of middle-aged ladies completely incapacitated? This feel like yet another case of thinking that what women go through naturally—getting breasts, having periods, having babies, finishing baby time—are all things we have to fight/overcome/medicate against. Now I feel like MAHA is saying, “take hrt, or you are not healthy.” What is UP with that?
Regarding foster children…. CCHR has done some noteworthy reporting on the forced drugging of foster children. How about we start there. Check this out:
Does anyone know if Premarin is still made from the urine of pregnant horses? This cruel industry kept the horses perpetually pregnant and catheters used constantly to collect the urine. The foals that were born were discarded or raised to have enough weight on them to be sold to the slaughterhouses in Canada. The company that produced the drug was under fire for these cruel and inhumane practices for years. I used herbal treatments for menopause symptoms and got along just fine.
Clinical research, notably the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) and Heart and Estrogen/progestin Replacement Study (HERS), indicates a complex relationship between Premarin (conjugated estrogens) and heart attacks. Current medical consensus is that hormone therapy, including Premarin, should not be used for the primary or secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease.
Key findings from scientific literature:
Increased Risk in Older Women: The WHI study found that generally healthy postmenopausal women (average age over 60 years) taking a combination of estrogen and progestin had an increased risk of coronary heart disease, stroke, and blood clots, especially in the first year of use.
No Overall Protection: A large-scale review of randomized controlled trials concluded there was no evidence that hormone therapy provides protective effects against heart attacks or cardiovascular death in either healthy women or those with pre-existing heart disease.
Timing Hypothesis: Some subsequent analyses and smaller trials suggest that hormone therapy may have a neutral or even beneficial effect on cardiovascular risk if initiated in women who are younger (under 60) or within 10 years of menopause (the "timing hypothesis"). However, these findings require further confirmation and do not change overall guidelines against using hormone therapy specifically for heart disease prevention.
Current Recommendations: Major health organizations like the American Heart Association and The Menopause Society recommend that decisions about hormone therapy use for menopause symptoms should be individualized, using the lowest effective dose for the shortest duration necessary. Cardiovascular risk factors should be carefully considered.
I braced when I saw Premarin. The production of Premarin, which the name comes from its origins - Pregnant Mare Urine is a grossly inhuman industry. The procurement of the estrogen needed to make Premarin comes from farms in China now because it’s been outlawed in America and in Canada because of the inhumanity. It requires, typically a draft mare, to become pregnant. She stands her entire pregnancy in a straight stall with hoses connected to her to collect the urine. Often they keep the mares dehydrated so the urine is even more potent. The mare then has her foal, they’re separated and the baby goes to a kill auction and the mare gets impregnated again and goes back on what we call the pee line. It is a disgusting practice. The same pharma company and I forget who it is who has the patent on Premarin, also has a patent on the synthetic, but doesn’t seem to use that as far as I know only gets the urine from China. We must be better. I have been involved in the gentling of the foals that are saved from the kill auctions. It is a sad story.
Well that’s horrible. How can we stop medical experiments on animals but do this to them? It’s like the blue shelled crab situation…only a ghoul would think of such things. I don’t know…one step forward, then a step back again…Here is the drug info. Cancer risk is all over their advertisement. The bottom of the webpage says 2024, so maybe it’s an outdated page.
https://www.premarin.com/about-premarin
PREMARIN- estrogens, conjugated tablet, film coated
Wyeth Pharmaceuticals LLC, a subsidiary of Pfizer Inc.
Dr. Christiane Northrup (double board certified OB/GYN) has also spoken out against premarin, as studies have shown it causes arthritis, blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, Alzheimer's, and ovarian, uterine and breast cancers. Instead, she recommends much safer individualized bioidentical hormone therapies.
I felt the same and strongly agree. I was given Premarin once and went into seizures. I don’t recommend it to anyone.
I’m so sorry that happened to you!
Thanku for sharing for the ignorant and uncaring
Disappointed. Why medicalize a natural process? If estrogen replacement is safe, why are women treated for breast cancer prescribed Tamoxifen or other estrogen suppressants to stop production of the remaining estrogen produced naturally? Tamoxifen can cause dementia, too. Looks like more creating patients for life.
One step forward and one step sideways by not discussing nutrient deficiencies contributing to menopausal symptoms!
That is correct. But there’s no money in that, is there. They are not interested in creating good health, they’re interested in profits.
I never had one menopausal problem, because It took me years, but I learned how to eat! People think, because they put food in their mouth, and swallow it... they know how to eat! If they don't know about the right natural nutrition, they are creating illness with every bite.
Exactly. This disgusting. It’s entirely unnecessary. Education, WHOLE CLEAN FOOD, herbs… that’s all the average woman needs. All they are doing is putting more money into big pharmas pockets at the cost of misrepresenting what’s natural and normal. More toxic drugs. Good work, MAHA.
The day they TRULY clean up the air, water, soil, is the day we can say the “government “ has the public’s best health practices in mind. Until then, know they’re just trying to make another sale at the cost of your quality of life and call it progress. Don’t be fooled.
Same thing halpened with Celebrex Government supports this ‘new much needed’ drug to offset their (medical mafia’s) losses on the schmovid-10+9…. When big pharma gets caught not able to make billions they push out more poison for a ‘new treatment’ Once again no nutrition advice from anyone Good thing too they’d prob just suggest eating more seed oil & crickets! Women’s bodies are not broken needing ‘fixing’ leave us alone ! All your tests cause harm Lawsuits reigned supreme after Celebrex and everyone says ‘Oh I still trust them!’ Amazing.
Covid FDA's "You're not a horse. You're not a cow. Seriously ya'll. Stop it." Premarin.
Again, this menopause, Support effort is supportive of the pharmaceutical companies. Premarin is mentioned but bioidentical hormones, and the research behind them was not mentioned. Is there a reason for that? It is good that the black box warnings are removed.
I’m curious why they think the #1 thing to make women more healthy is a drug. Menopause is a natural process—we literally all go through it. I’ve felt this pressure from my friend —the “you should be taking hormone replacement therapy”. But , why? I actually prefer being warm to being cold, which I was all while I had my heavy period. I’m fortunate that I’m not destroyed by it, but what did ladies do before drugs? Were the vast majority of middle-aged ladies completely incapacitated? This feel like yet another case of thinking that what women go through naturally—getting breasts, having periods, having babies, finishing baby time—are all things we have to fight/overcome/medicate against. Now I feel like MAHA is saying, “take hrt, or you are not healthy.” What is UP with that?
Regarding foster children…. CCHR has done some noteworthy reporting on the forced drugging of foster children. How about we start there. Check this out:
https://www.cchrint.org/2023/08/09/foster-children-4x-more-psychotropic-drugs/
Good to know who “MAHA”TRULY is.
They can keep their horse pee premarin
Con Artist(s) Period. CRUSH the Freedom/PatriotAct STOP the Insane PREP Act. THAT is protecting Women’s Health
Does anyone know if Premarin is still made from the urine of pregnant horses? This cruel industry kept the horses perpetually pregnant and catheters used constantly to collect the urine. The foals that were born were discarded or raised to have enough weight on them to be sold to the slaughterhouses in Canada. The company that produced the drug was under fire for these cruel and inhumane practices for years. I used herbal treatments for menopause symptoms and got along just fine.
Censorship as a security threat, indeed.
This is more than censorship and more than a cover-up:
https://trishwood.substack.com/p/a-shocking-paywalled-post-about-vaccine
https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/uk-public-health-watchdog-accused
https://drclarecraig.substack.com/p/the-outcome-of-the-icoukhsa-foi-court
Clinical research, notably the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) and Heart and Estrogen/progestin Replacement Study (HERS), indicates a complex relationship between Premarin (conjugated estrogens) and heart attacks. Current medical consensus is that hormone therapy, including Premarin, should not be used for the primary or secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease.
Key findings from scientific literature:
Increased Risk in Older Women: The WHI study found that generally healthy postmenopausal women (average age over 60 years) taking a combination of estrogen and progestin had an increased risk of coronary heart disease, stroke, and blood clots, especially in the first year of use.
No Overall Protection: A large-scale review of randomized controlled trials concluded there was no evidence that hormone therapy provides protective effects against heart attacks or cardiovascular death in either healthy women or those with pre-existing heart disease.
Timing Hypothesis: Some subsequent analyses and smaller trials suggest that hormone therapy may have a neutral or even beneficial effect on cardiovascular risk if initiated in women who are younger (under 60) or within 10 years of menopause (the "timing hypothesis"). However, these findings require further confirmation and do not change overall guidelines against using hormone therapy specifically for heart disease prevention.
Current Recommendations: Major health organizations like the American Heart Association and The Menopause Society recommend that decisions about hormone therapy use for menopause symptoms should be individualized, using the lowest effective dose for the shortest duration necessary. Cardiovascular risk factors should be carefully considered.
I remember reading exactly that in Dr. Christiane Northrup's book "The Wisdom of Menopause."
Thanks for your great work!
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