Yes, I know. I don’t like that, either. I’m tired of people not thinking for themselves. And I’m sure that Big Food/Big Agriculture (The Blob) will continue to have influence over a newly tweaked ‘food pyramid’.
I pretty much ignore or laugh at anything the government "advises" because it's worth as much as other unsolicited advice, one size does not fit all even much of the time, and as you suggested below, we should practice thinking for ourselves.
The alleged villain of low fat, Ancel Keys, lived to a hundred. He also decamped to Italy, where he spent the last half of his life surviving on what is now called the Mediterranean diet. Pasta!
Then there's T. Colin Campbell, author of The China Study and another centenarian. He found the healthiest diet was one based on plant food, not animal food. Rice!
Then there's the world's best known metaphor: "I am the bread of life." Bread!
The production of lots and lots of carbohydrate foods enabled the development of larger non migratory populations & eventually, governing systems suitable for setting up/managing irrigation systems to produce even more carbohydrates and finally, capable of raising armies and stealing everybody else's lands & enslaving them too.
The production of lots and lots of carbohydrate foods enabled the development of civilization, thanks to which you are literate and have a flush toilet, to name a few boons of the civilized world. All thanks to grains.
What's the use of a "food pyramid" when non-toxic food cannot be found or even be grown any more. Do the terms "organic" and "non-GMO" enter the discussion? What about the toxins in air, water and soil which permeate our vegetables and.fruits and reduce their nutritional value? Why would anyone still recommend dairy products from highly medicated cows fed with grain, instead of grass? Shall I go on?
making the best possible decision is the way forward as always
Organic food is widely available but growing as much as possible has
ALWAYS been wise.
Chemtrails are now advocated by the gubmint although obfuscation and renaming is a failed attempt to normalize.
Already dozens of states are in the process of banning, some already have.
Dairy from cows. The perfect food for taking a 50# calf and turning it into a 1000# heifer in ONE year. Last I check human babies do not have that kind of weight gain...
Thanks for highlighting Sally and Nina. They, together with Gary Taubes, have been the indefatigable lodestars of the movement for more than two decades. In fact, they are the creators of the movement.
Would love to see information on FOOD QUALITY incorporated into any new food guidelines from HHS and USDA. This seems as important as any other guidance: organic, minimally processed, regenerative, grassfinished, fresh, even local and seasonal. The ripple effect would be to boost the farmers who are truly restoring our ecosystems and cleaning our air and water.
this looks very very bad regarding RFK cross posted from John Rappoport's sub
What is RFK doing??? He has clearly changed course or been compromised?
For some of us this is review:
"Well, well.
There’s a lot to unpack here. And I recently did. Before Kennedy made this shocker of a statement.
In a piece about the Senate’s refusal to confirm Dr. Dave Weldon as CDC director, I laid out VERY relevant info about the MMR shot. I published the PUBLIC CONFESSION of a CDC researcher named William Thompson, who in 2004, omitted vital data in an MMR study:
—Statement of CDC researcher, William Thompson, posted on the Morgan Verkamp LLC law firm website, August 27, 2014:
“My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.”
“I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.”
In fact, Thompson told Florida Congressman Bill Posey that he and his co-authors, sat in a room with a garbage can and threw the sheets of data revealing the MMR-autism connection into the can.
—And I assure you, Kennedy knows all about William Thompson and the criminally concealed MMR-autism connection.
Kennedy knows all about the CDC study of the MMR vaccine that was cooked and faked.
And yet Kennedy endorses the vaccine against measles.
Speak up, Bobby. I can’t hear you.
I guess we’re going to have to do HEALTH FREEDOM without you, Bob.
Right?
If not, explain.
Explain what the hell you’re doing.
Have a chat with Brian Hooker, who works as senior scientific advisor at the site you founded, Children’s Health Defense. Ask Brian what he thinks about the MMR vaccine. Because that cheating lying CDC researcher, William Thompson, had a number of phone conversations with Brian, and Thompson told Brian the story—the faked study, the MMR-autism connection.
I’m sure Brian will have a lot to say, Bob.
Let me get this straight, Bob. In your new position, you’ve ordered a comprehensive investigation of the potential links between vaccines and autism—and yet you already know the vaccine you just endorsed, the MMR, DOES HAVE A LINK TO AUTISM.
Are you TRYING to crash and burn, Bob?
Do you think, we, in the Health Freedom camp, are so stupid we can’t put pieces of the puzzle together?..."
Yeah, that’s a good history. In fact, I’ve cited your linked source and written about many of the events cited.
Perhaps I could have chosen my words more carefully: collectively, these three giants have had a momentous effect on the current renaissance of the low carb movement, for which they deserve our recognition, gratitude and respect.
But I won’t argue with you with respect to the word history.
Yes! This needs to happen as soon as possible! Our children, and seniors in nursing homes have been suffering under old guidelines for way to long! Not to mention foods served in hospitals!!!
We are fast approaching health shifts. Removing toxins from "food" is front row and center.
Some of us have employed avoidance of this garbage for many decades.
The concept that the gubmint need to do something is interesting.
RFK has the body of a 22 yr old fitness expert. Some of us know how that is accomplished,
however several of the key players are not healthy. Reread...
Targeting Big P and their henchmen the Medical Cartel, is a way forward.
That will fundamentally change Big Ag, and largely destroy processed "food" garbage.
The American Dental Cartel as a organization is fully on board for fluoridation of the public water resulting is severe IQ decline, also a specific malignancy in adolescent males. The CDC proudly keeps stats on states and fluoridation, including when it was introduced. The result dumb people and cancer in the long bones.
The solution as always is knowledge and some Wisdom. There is a governor...
Agree on identifying processes for removing toxins like Glyphosate and it's descendants from US soil IMMEDIATELY. This is easier said than done.
We will need to keep "organic" certification while this is all being sorted out, but we need to FIX the organic credentials for HOW MANY YEARS A FIELD MUST BE CHEMICAL FREE. Three years does not provide protection for humans or animals.
We need to make it easier for those EU countries who make minimally processed, TRULY organic foods to get them into America's health-starved tummies. Healthy wheat, pastas and fermented foods come to mind.
America's SAFE SCIENTISTS should study what was done in EU countries to amend any poisoned soils so that Intel may inform our work going forward.
PS there are a number of dental communities promoting removal of Fluoride from water systems and from oral dentifrice. But this needs to become mainstream faster. Kudos to the one or two governors who have this now in place.
It is impossible to remove Roundup or its analogs from food.
It is possible to ban its usage.
Great question regarding organic certification.
Lundburg, the most prominent organic rice producer, was faced with an ugly truth.
They purchased large tracks of converntionally farmed land and waited out the years to acquire organic certification. However arsenic is an ELEMENT, does not dissipate with years.
It is commonly used in conventional agriculture as part of a pesticide program.
What happened it that people took ill from arsenice poisoning something easily tested for. The company errored, doubt it was intentional.
Heavy metals bio accumulate. Soil remediation is highly problematic.
It is impossible to break down an element into smaller particles. It is possible to attach them to something that would allow their removal. Then what?
Where are you going to discard?
What do you mean by dental communities? The ADA is quadrupling down...
I appreciate all your comments very much, as well as the questions you pose. I'm caught up in some weather-related issues and as soon as this dies down I'll write a few more comments. For now: I do not think the "dentites" will win that battle. Let's keep watching. Wish I could write more now!
Economics/producer profits, politics and lobbying lead to the present "official narrative" on dietary recommendations rather than best (known) health practices?. We live in a capitalist system- Quelle surprise!
Now, If we could just get medical researchers, biologists, nutritionists and INVESTMENT BANKERS all on the same (correct!) page?
How about 80% unprocessed (or minimally processed) plants such as vegetables, fruits, beans, legumes, nuts, and seeds, and 20% meat, fish, dairy, whole grains breads and cereals? Hopefully toxic pesticides and herbicides, and processing additives (seed oils, gums, bioengineered food ingredients, etc.) will be banned and don't need to be mentioned.
Why exactly is it a pyramid at all? Do Freemasons really know what’s good for people?
I don’t rely on the ‘government’ to decide what to eat.
The problem is, the pyramid informs a lot of government assisted programs like school lunches, hospital meals, etc. :(
Yes, I know. I don’t like that, either. I’m tired of people not thinking for themselves. And I’m sure that Big Food/Big Agriculture (The Blob) will continue to have influence over a newly tweaked ‘food pyramid’.
I pretty much ignore or laugh at anything the government "advises" because it's worth as much as other unsolicited advice, one size does not fit all even much of the time, and as you suggested below, we should practice thinking for ourselves.
The over reliance on carbohydrates in the food pyramid is the root cause of obesity in the American diet
That is not true or accurate. Relying on the Food Pyramid?? How ridiculous,
You seem not to comprehend the differnce between carbs.
The population centers of the world have lived on a carb centered diet since time began.
The question is which carbs? There are answers
The alleged villain of low fat, Ancel Keys, lived to a hundred. He also decamped to Italy, where he spent the last half of his life surviving on what is now called the Mediterranean diet. Pasta!
Then there's T. Colin Campbell, author of The China Study and another centenarian. He found the healthiest diet was one based on plant food, not animal food. Rice!
Then there's the world's best known metaphor: "I am the bread of life." Bread!
Carbs win!
Indeed!! Very familiar with each contribution.
The late John McDougall famously said: "People like to hear good news,
about their bad habits"
Truer words never spoken
He was another champion of Complex Carb based nutrition
The production of lots and lots of carbohydrate foods enabled the development of larger non migratory populations & eventually, governing systems suitable for setting up/managing irrigation systems to produce even more carbohydrates and finally, capable of raising armies and stealing everybody else's lands & enslaving them too.
Blame it on the grain-
The production of lots and lots of carbohydrate foods enabled the development of civilization, thanks to which you are literate and have a flush toilet, to name a few boons of the civilized world. All thanks to grains.
It could help some people to change the food pyramid. Especially to take out those seed oils and too many grains and breads.
Shocking disclosure: the current food pyramid is actually a food dunce cap.
Stop the Covid shots! 🛑. Save the children!
What's the use of a "food pyramid" when non-toxic food cannot be found or even be grown any more. Do the terms "organic" and "non-GMO" enter the discussion? What about the toxins in air, water and soil which permeate our vegetables and.fruits and reduce their nutritional value? Why would anyone still recommend dairy products from highly medicated cows fed with grain, instead of grass? Shall I go on?
making the best possible decision is the way forward as always
Organic food is widely available but growing as much as possible has
ALWAYS been wise.
Chemtrails are now advocated by the gubmint although obfuscation and renaming is a failed attempt to normalize.
Already dozens of states are in the process of banning, some already have.
Dairy from cows. The perfect food for taking a 50# calf and turning it into a 1000# heifer in ONE year. Last I check human babies do not have that kind of weight gain...
There are details...
Thanks for highlighting Sally and Nina. They, together with Gary Taubes, have been the indefatigable lodestars of the movement for more than two decades. In fact, they are the creators of the movement.
"In fact, they are the creators of the movement."
Not even close.
The History of Low Carb
https://dieteticallyspeaking.com/the-history-of-low-carb/
I can’t believe that hydrogenated oils are in so many products. Those should join the list of things being banned.
Would love to see information on FOOD QUALITY incorporated into any new food guidelines from HHS and USDA. This seems as important as any other guidance: organic, minimally processed, regenerative, grassfinished, fresh, even local and seasonal. The ripple effect would be to boost the farmers who are truly restoring our ecosystems and cleaning our air and water.
this looks very very bad regarding RFK cross posted from John Rappoport's sub
What is RFK doing??? He has clearly changed course or been compromised?
For some of us this is review:
"Well, well.
There’s a lot to unpack here. And I recently did. Before Kennedy made this shocker of a statement.
In a piece about the Senate’s refusal to confirm Dr. Dave Weldon as CDC director, I laid out VERY relevant info about the MMR shot. I published the PUBLIC CONFESSION of a CDC researcher named William Thompson, who in 2004, omitted vital data in an MMR study:
—Statement of CDC researcher, William Thompson, posted on the Morgan Verkamp LLC law firm website, August 27, 2014:
“My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.”
“I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.”
In fact, Thompson told Florida Congressman Bill Posey that he and his co-authors, sat in a room with a garbage can and threw the sheets of data revealing the MMR-autism connection into the can.
—And I assure you, Kennedy knows all about William Thompson and the criminally concealed MMR-autism connection.
Kennedy knows all about the CDC study of the MMR vaccine that was cooked and faked.
And yet Kennedy endorses the vaccine against measles.
Speak up, Bobby. I can’t hear you.
I guess we’re going to have to do HEALTH FREEDOM without you, Bob.
Right?
If not, explain.
Explain what the hell you’re doing.
Have a chat with Brian Hooker, who works as senior scientific advisor at the site you founded, Children’s Health Defense. Ask Brian what he thinks about the MMR vaccine. Because that cheating lying CDC researcher, William Thompson, had a number of phone conversations with Brian, and Thompson told Brian the story—the faked study, the MMR-autism connection.
I’m sure Brian will have a lot to say, Bob.
Let me get this straight, Bob. In your new position, you’ve ordered a comprehensive investigation of the potential links between vaccines and autism—and yet you already know the vaccine you just endorsed, the MMR, DOES HAVE A LINK TO AUTISM.
Are you TRYING to crash and burn, Bob?
Do you think, we, in the Health Freedom camp, are so stupid we can’t put pieces of the puzzle together?..."
Yeah, that’s a good history. In fact, I’ve cited your linked source and written about many of the events cited.
Perhaps I could have chosen my words more carefully: collectively, these three giants have had a momentous effect on the current renaissance of the low carb movement, for which they deserve our recognition, gratitude and respect.
But I won’t argue with you with respect to the word history.
Yes! This needs to happen as soon as possible! Our children, and seniors in nursing homes have been suffering under old guidelines for way to long! Not to mention foods served in hospitals!!!
We are fast approaching health shifts. Removing toxins from "food" is front row and center.
Some of us have employed avoidance of this garbage for many decades.
The concept that the gubmint need to do something is interesting.
RFK has the body of a 22 yr old fitness expert. Some of us know how that is accomplished,
however several of the key players are not healthy. Reread...
Targeting Big P and their henchmen the Medical Cartel, is a way forward.
That will fundamentally change Big Ag, and largely destroy processed "food" garbage.
The American Dental Cartel as a organization is fully on board for fluoridation of the public water resulting is severe IQ decline, also a specific malignancy in adolescent males. The CDC proudly keeps stats on states and fluoridation, including when it was introduced. The result dumb people and cancer in the long bones.
The solution as always is knowledge and some Wisdom. There is a governor...
Agree on identifying processes for removing toxins like Glyphosate and it's descendants from US soil IMMEDIATELY. This is easier said than done.
We will need to keep "organic" certification while this is all being sorted out, but we need to FIX the organic credentials for HOW MANY YEARS A FIELD MUST BE CHEMICAL FREE. Three years does not provide protection for humans or animals.
We need to make it easier for those EU countries who make minimally processed, TRULY organic foods to get them into America's health-starved tummies. Healthy wheat, pastas and fermented foods come to mind.
America's SAFE SCIENTISTS should study what was done in EU countries to amend any poisoned soils so that Intel may inform our work going forward.
PS there are a number of dental communities promoting removal of Fluoride from water systems and from oral dentifrice. But this needs to become mainstream faster. Kudos to the one or two governors who have this now in place.
Let's Go, America!
What you say is true. Allow me to clarify.
It is impossible to remove Roundup or its analogs from food.
It is possible to ban its usage.
Great question regarding organic certification.
Lundburg, the most prominent organic rice producer, was faced with an ugly truth.
They purchased large tracks of converntionally farmed land and waited out the years to acquire organic certification. However arsenic is an ELEMENT, does not dissipate with years.
It is commonly used in conventional agriculture as part of a pesticide program.
What happened it that people took ill from arsenice poisoning something easily tested for. The company errored, doubt it was intentional.
Heavy metals bio accumulate. Soil remediation is highly problematic.
It is impossible to break down an element into smaller particles. It is possible to attach them to something that would allow their removal. Then what?
Where are you going to discard?
What do you mean by dental communities? The ADA is quadrupling down...
I appreciate all your comments very much, as well as the questions you pose. I'm caught up in some weather-related issues and as soon as this dies down I'll write a few more comments. For now: I do not think the "dentites" will win that battle. Let's keep watching. Wish I could write more now!
no worries, no hurries
My commentary is mostly for the many lurkers
also have enjoyed the dialog
Economics/producer profits, politics and lobbying lead to the present "official narrative" on dietary recommendations rather than best (known) health practices?. We live in a capitalist system- Quelle surprise!
Now, If we could just get medical researchers, biologists, nutritionists and INVESTMENT BANKERS all on the same (correct!) page?
How about 80% unprocessed (or minimally processed) plants such as vegetables, fruits, beans, legumes, nuts, and seeds, and 20% meat, fish, dairy, whole grains breads and cereals? Hopefully toxic pesticides and herbicides, and processing additives (seed oils, gums, bioengineered food ingredients, etc.) will be banned and don't need to be mentioned.